Vegetarian?

sume sentient beingz are ah lot smarter then thoze onez whu kan spell n talk.


Yeah man, I definitely agree. In the end humans are drowning in their own excess and moral flaws, the animal kingdom is/ was a beautiful thing before we had to step in.

 

And how, pray tell, do you figure that out?

Also, don't you think it's abit of a generalisation that you assume I eat meat from battery farms?

 

We were meant to eat meat. Jeez, we're only humans.

How can you give these babies up?




Whoa, my mouth is watering...

 

I'm not saying I like the guy...I think hes a fucktard for a president. But Kerry's like a double fucktard with no balls on steriods.

peace

 

Al Gore FTW!:tongue:

 

vuktards dizzcusting uder Vuktardz, wow, grew yoh hair and stop being so piggy.

 

I say Ralph Nader ftw......its bout time to bring back the green party. Too bad no one votes for anything other than democrate/republican....I wish the American political parties would just sit the fuck down so it would be man vs. man for office, instead of party vs. party

 

Man, all you do is insult people that don't agree to your views. You call yourself 'Ultra Liberal', but I thought an 'Ultra Liberal' society would be better than a Conservative Hippie. It really fucking saddens me to see a "hippie" that is the complete opposite to what I would thought a hippie would be. I would hate to be surrounded around people like you at festivals.

Also, on the note of vegetarianism, what would a starving child prefer? A big Lamb shank, or a big carrot? Also, someone said that our morals have changed since years ago? That's a very elitist thing to say. There are tribes out there who still have the morals you consider bad, and have been eating meat for hundreds of years.

 

Clench yoh handz an get off yoh daddyz' platform an get ah ticket 4 a new destination, called HairyVegLand.

 

lol I hope to God I never find myself in HairyVegLand.....

 

Re the bit quoted from LA Matthews, in the environment in which humans evolved as hunter-gatherers, we were primarily vegetarians, living mainly off fruit, nuts etc - with occasional meat when we could hunt and kill it. The relatively recent development of farming animals and eating lots of meat every day is quite a new phenomenon - just a couple of thousand years. We evolved to be primarily vegetarian omnivores. Most of the "meat" we ate would actually have been insects and grubs, not the flesh of mammals.

Personally I think the moral evolution you're talking about (gratefulvegan) is right. We have no physical requirement to eat meat, but the standards of society as a whole are not yet that advanced. It's getting there, though, recognition of the ethical issue around eating meat is growing every year. We also have the luxury of choice in the west, something which not all cultures have.

 

get on down frum that Holler, look arround, itz all over for duh guud-old-boyz, everywhere you luuk, longhaired skinny tall guyz eatin plants are everywhere.

 

There are many species of animals that would go extinct if it wasn't for meat eaters, particularly deer where I live. If no one was to hunt the white tail, overpopulation would cause the entire species to be whiped out due to disease.......So are you guys saying that it should be against my morals to shoot the deer? Wrong to bring the meat from the field to my table instead of eating a man made meat substitute? This puzzles me. I don't care if anyone is a vegitarian or not, couldn't bother me less. But what does bother me is when people tell me that the way I do things is imoral or wrong, because to me its not.

 

Yeah I think it's a problem to say it's "wrong" or "immoral" when it's been such a central part of human culture for so long. Standards change though, and I believe this particular one is moving gradually in the direction of society becoming aware of the cruelty we inflict on animals. We have more and more laws being passed on animal cruelty and ethical standards in farming and the debate about bloodsports and animal testing doesn't go away, and the number of vegetarians there are just goes up all the time.

 

so in some ways i would say im a vegetrian...i dont eat any red meat...i will eat chicken and light turkey and plenty of fish...is that odd?

 

I just think that people are too busy thinking of themselves than thinking of all the other life that surrounds them. In the end we need to embrace the world that surrounds us. Deer have family, cows have mothers, we all must love one another!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eating meat is nothing more than an ignorant act. It is not healthy it is not sustainable and it promotes cruelty. In the end, if you eat at McDonalds or any cheeseburger for that matter, you are being a greedy person. Come to the light, see the injustice...go vegan.
Forget eating chicken and fish! they are abused to please your taste buds. Think about the whole picture- we are nothing to this world- we must help to save her rather than help to bring her down...In the end- when you die- do you want to have the blood of thousands and thousands of animals weighing down your soul- when you should never promote such a terrible industry----seek the truth- meat eaters are brainwashed!!!!!!!!! Ignore what you have been taught- realize that you have been fooled- stop promoting torture and death just because you enjoy the tast of a certain food!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

taste in animal meats comez from veggy spicez, not the meat.

 

Amen. Meat is trashi.

 

Meat-eaters are doing what comes naturally to humans, an omnivorous species. They're doing nothing wrong because life has no intrinsic value*. Vegetarians, however, acknowledge the fact that animals can feel emotions and physical pain just as we can**, and extend the universal ideal of inter-personal compassion to animals accordingly. They also recognize the health and environmental benefits that arise in modern culture. While I'm a vegetarian and have been for a long time, and will be for the rest of my life, I acknowledge that there is reason to eat meat and bear no ill will towards those who do it, though I encourage them to brush before kissing me .


*This is the weak point in what I have to say. I'm writing from a strictly scientific point of view, and arguably, destroying a life is no worse (I refuse to get into qualitative subjectivity) than smashing a rock or disturbing water. There is, of course, the viewpoint of many religions that life is of (great) value. From this point of view, vegetarianism can be stated to be the morally superior option. I must point out though; that, as anyone following the Bible with any determination should know, God did put animals on Earth for us to eat (I remember reading the passage, but please correct me if I'm wrong). "Though shall not kill" applies only to humans, just as Jefferson's "All men are created equal" referred specifically to white males.

**As demonstrated through MRI scans, behavioural evidence, common sense, etc.

 

I'd like to mention though, that I'm quite against sport-hunting (where the meat is not all/mostly eaten and other parts are not used for practical purposes), and that, as lithium pointed out, our society is turning towards more humaine, compassionate beliefs and practices.
Ultimately, I believe the source of all the sore debate is that on one side, it is argued that as the intellectually most developed species on Earth, we have the right to eat the others (it has nothing to do with intelligence, obviously. Lots of other animals eat each other, even cannibalism is not uncommon), and on the other side that as the most advanced species we have the capacity, and therefor the responsibility to behave in as altruistic and compassionate a manner as possible.
I tend to agree more with the latter group.