Would you rather know the truth about everything, even if it might hurt?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by ripple, Nov 21, 2006.

  1. ripple

    ripple Member

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    Heres a question Ive been thinking about.
    Would you rather know the truth about everything, even if the truth might hurt and not be very nice. Or would you rather not know, and carry on as things are, believing a lie just to feel comftable. Is ignorance is bliss?
     
  2. jailmate

    jailmate Plantenist

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    it already hurtz!
     
  3. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    The 'truth' whatever is meant by that, may not be that sad. Or it might be that bits of it were sad and bits quite ecstatic......yet other bits might engender no emotional response. The laws of mathematics are 'true', but they don't make me feel very much at all.


    But to live in ignorance is not the way to happiness.
     
  4. johnnystillcantread

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    Hello! I voted for “don’t know – it’s a tuff one”
    If we lived in a totally truthful world there might not be any
    mental hurt.(and wouldn’t that be grand?)
    For the past 9 days I have been torn between wanting to know the truth or living in denial and ignorance.
    My dog is missing and I kind of like to think that someone has him in their yard and they are taking real good care of him. But that might not be the case he may have been murdered or taken for a ride. So in my case not knowing the truth or finding the truth hurts.
     
  5. jailmate

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    truth can not be equated with sufferin, there iz a degree of sufffering that everyone, even retartz, must endure, suffering the truth only increases knowlege of up an down an right an wrong an what an how 2 deal vit duh unchanging truth;
    sooooooooooo gruuuve yoh hairz an eat only plantz.
     
  6. Varuna

    Varuna Senior Member

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    I would rather know than not know, and I would rather be happy than unhappy.

    I don't really accept the question. Simply put, it violates reality by denying the coexistence of truth and bliss. It is unnecessarily limiting and ultimately misleading and it tends to create an unreflective, habitual acceptance of the status quo that keeps humanity from questioning reality.

    Anyone with the balls (or ovaries . . . if you're a woman) to think for themselves, to look for truth themselves would know "the sad truth" and "blissful ignorance" are two unfortunately paired concepts.

    Why should I, or anyone, believe the only options are "the sad truth" or "blissful ignorance" . . . ? Consider the idea that, ultimately, "the sad truth" and "blissful ignorance" are a examples of a erroneously limited relationship between two spectrums (spectra) of meaning (true/false, sad/blissful).

    In my experience, truth leads to bliss. Truth is, ultimately, blissful. At the very least, bliss coexists with truth far longer and more naturally than it does with untruth.

    I don't know if untruth is ultimately and permanently sad. Please don't think about it too much.

    Peace and Love
     
  7. Duck

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    I'd rather know a little of everything
    truth
    lies
    half truths
    and complete bullshit

    life would be too boring with just one
     
  8. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    id rather know. im sure, no matter how much the truth would hurt, it would hurt more if i found out id been believing a lie my whole life and having reality shatter. id much rather know
     
  9. Columbo

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    Lies hurt - the truth never does
    well lies hurt more
    plus if one insists on telling the truth, one is sure, sooner or later, to be found out !
     
  10. Airfern1313

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    I think it would be rough to know how you're going to die and when...
     
  11. Art Delfo

    Art Delfo It is dark

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    I'd rather know the truth so I can avoid it hitting me in the face if I chose lies.
     
  12. jailmate

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    most likley "it" vill hit yoh in da azz end.
     
  13. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    Give it to me straight.
    The whole truth, and nothing but for me, thanx.
    I say spit it out, lay your cards on the table, spill the beans, let the cat out of the bag, and open that big old can of worms as soon as possible. Don't omit the truth and utilize plausible deniability. That is a hair better than a blatant lie, but it is cowardly, and shows someone fear has gotten control of to some degree. The prevarication, equivocation, speak with forked-tongue method rarely, if ever, originates from an ethical, or moral goal. Secrets imply impropriety, or at best, ruthless competition.
    When I was very young, my mom taught me that it is more important to stick with what you believe than anything else. If no one agrees with you, and everyone will be sore at you for saying what you believe, but you feel it must be said, then say it anyway. Of course, unless there is a good reason, sometimes I have taken the more prudent route. If the truth hurts, there should be a good reason for stating it, imho.
     
  14. BelladonnaBlue

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    Well, I guess that would depend on which truths your talking about. I'd rather know the truth about the government BS we're all being spoonfed, but as far as spirituality goes, I think it's much more interesting to search for the truth. For me, life is all about the journey, not the destination.
     
  15. Pachomius

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    For me, life is all about the journey, not the destination.
    -- BelladonnaBlue​

    Can we say that our pet dogs and cats at home are happier than us?

    Or is happiness not attributable to dogs and cats?

    I have dogs and cats at home and I can see them to be happy and sad; and you know they also can distinguish what is true and what is false.

    You see, I want the dogs or the cats to go out because they would rather stay in and I need them to be outside for some business I have to do inside. So I would pretend to bring a bowl of food for them outside, but they know that the bowl is empty and would not leave. even though the bowl is still wet with food sauce. At the beginning they were fooled.

    But do they know that they will die one day, or they will get sick and at least grow old and weak and eventually die?

    Anyway, animals don't know a lot of things we know, and I think they are happier for not knowing than us for knowing.

    But since it is my nature to know and my capacity to know and my option to know, then I would prefer to know the truth even though it is painful; because knowing the truth is better for surviving than not, and normally better for getting the best of life under the actual circumstances or facts surrounding life.


    What is that you say?

    For me, life is all about the journey, not the destination.


    That's similar to what I heard a Buddhist say yesterday, that life is all about living, not about the destiny of man. I thought he was not thinking further than he should.

    It would seem like riding in a bus is already satisfactory to the passengers and they don't care to know where the bus is heading for?

    Where does the Good Shepherd lead his sheep? to green pasture and clear water? Yes. And then ultimately? Of course, the parable of the Good Shepherd is only to be applicable up to green pasture and clear water; so that sheep and Christians don't think further what comes finally after all the green pasture and clear water. For the sheep, the slaughter house, but of course for Christian sheep, the kingdom of heaven -- they believe that.


    Pachomius
     
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