so its a cough suppresant (robotussum) yet it can make you hallucinate and trip out like LSD/shrooms if taken over a set amount?? how does that happen, and is it too intense for a "noob druggy" to do?? (only smoked and drank)
I used DXM as my second drug after only a month or three of smoking weed and I loved the shit out of it. DXM is indeed a cough suppresant and it is found in Robotussin DM amoung many other over the counter syrups and pills. It can indeed make you hallucinate including open eye visuals (rare in my opinion I have dexed literally around a hundred times and have only had a good open eye visual on it once where I saw an alien looking monk praying in the corner of my room and lifting up into the sky). It is more known to cause close eye visuals and does this almost everytime with some pretty decent close eye visuals but the type of close eye visuals are not the same as they are on research chemicals or other shit. Really unique close eye visuals. It is not really like LSD or shrooms at all it has a major mind fuck component to it, you will undoubtably lose touch with reality and your thoughts will be clouded with out a doubt if you take a good dose of it. I am not sure HOW it happens but I know that it binds to opiate receptors and is an opioid (not an opiate as it is not synthesised from opium, many people argue it is an opiate but they are really just wrong heh.) It can make you fail a piss test for opium however and also PCP although I have had friends test on it clean for both some people may fail according to erowid and I trust them. It is not too intense for a newbie and is in all truth probably many peoples third or fourth drug used, but start at a low dose. Start at 400 MG of dex I would say and work your way up, I found my favorite dose was 600-800 mg but I have used over a gram of it in one sitting before. I imagine most people would enjoy it most at 400-600 mg but you never know really. Don't use products with shit in them besides DXM as the active ingredient or you are risking death in all honesty. (DXM deaths alone have occured but at almost always at higher doses (I think 1,600 mg of pure dex resulted in a documentated death I have personally used 1,200 mg and am still alive and fine but had a friend that did 1,600 mg and he had seizures but did not die....look at erowid.org 's dose chart they list the currently documented lethal doses of pure DXM I think 1,600 was the lowest but not sure....my friend did have seizures off of two 800 mg pills of pure dex so I imagine it could kill you but he was fine afterwards no lasting damage that he knows of) and not near as much as deaths from the other shit found in cough medicine with out only dxm as the ingredient or corricidin. Try the robotussin cough gels they have only DXM in them as active ingredient (last I checked you should ALWAYS check just to make sure) and remove the need to drink cough sryup which is disgusting and almost made me vomit the first time I did it. Read the DXM faq on erowid and you should know pretty much the basis of what you need to know before you trip/ decide to trip.
DXM won't make you trip out like shrooms or acid, though at high doses some crazy stuff can happen, but I think it's actually a really good drug for a beginner, you can monitor exactly how much you're taking, and it's basically pretty mild, and can help prepare for more psychdelic trips on other drugs. And remember, don't use syrup, use the gel caps.
I checked it and erowid says risk of death is 2,500 mg but I would never do more than a gram (even that is a high fucking dose) although I have done 1,200 MG before my friend having seizures at 1,600 mg makes me think you may risk death even below erowids 2,500 mg as the lowest. Also I am drunk so if this makes no sense blame the booze.
Seriously your highest dose should be around 800 mg and start at half of that I would feel sad if anything bad happened to you....dex is a pretty safe drug though as I have done it countless times since I was 14 and am still alive.....but too much will indeed kill you or make you have seizures or some other bad shit. I think you should try it if you are interested in it though never have found a drug anything like it (although I figure PCP and ketamine are fairly like it).
Make sure you read the active ingredients, if there's anything other than dextromethrorphan HBr don't take it. And make sure you know your doses. Read the dxm faq.
It is a really great drug I think but don't over do it, I used it way to much when I was younger and it really has a pull too it for some people. It tends to be the type of drug you either do once then never do again or do once and then keep on doing it for a long time, in my experience.
Just a couple thoughts: 1. Never combine alcohol with DXM. never ever ever ever ever. Even a small amount. Shit gets weird. This is particularly true at high doses. My last trip, and I haven't done dxm sense, involved some alcohol. It was a 3rd-4th plateau dose, I don't really remember. I was drunk when I bought the stuff, and pissed at my ex-girlfriend. This is a scenario you should not attempt to recreate. 2. DXM, for me, is about as far from a social drug as you can get. You need a quiet dark room with a bed that is near a bathroom, an easy path outside to a darkened porch or something, and a path to a room with low light that also has a place to lie down in and some simple things to play with and music already set up to start playing. Also put water and some salty foods or whatever rocks your boat here. I suppose these needs are based on my experiences with high doses, with lower doses you can be less careful with setting. If you resolve yourself to stay confined to two or three areas, a trip sitter isn't really necessary. The worst that can happen is you vomit, which can feel SWEET on DXM btw. You don't want to have any unexpected encounters with authority folks on high doses of DXM: you look like you're freaking out, suffering delirium tremens with some rapid onset muscular disorder that makes you move around like a freak of nature. the funniest thing is looking in a mirror and seeing yourself holding your hand in a claw against your chest with your face contorted in a wacked out expression with your hair all wild because you've been messing it up while wandering around repeating some monosyllabic phrase to yourself over and over again and you didn't even notice till you looked at yourself in the mirror. 3. The difference between 1st plateu/low-mid 2nd plateu and mid-high 3rd plateu->4th plateu doses is like the difference between smoking a joint and smoking a joint and taking acid+mushrooms with some wild turkey and a couple adderall. MAybe not that much of a difference, but its pretty fucking significant. They are not so gradual, imo. It's like the difference between jumping off of the bottbom step of some stairs, to jumping off a cliff. Yeah you're jumping both times, and at the beginning of both you're falling due to gravity, but after that they change big time. 4. At high doses you lose steroscopic vision. How come people rarely mention this? Steroscopic vision is the ability of your eyes to make a coherent 3d world out of two 2D images supplied by your two eyes. With this gone, you can't see shit in any functional sense. This is primarily why people do DXM in dark rooms: the world becomes a disjointed fucked up blur like a cubist painting with all the perspectives distorted. It sounds cool...well it is kind of cool, but vision just sort of sucks at high-doses of DXM, and what you're seeing in your head or in a pitch black room is MUCH cooler. Anyways, loss of steroscopic vision can last for up to 24 hours. Yes, a whole freaking day. This, too me, is the biggest reason not to do high-dose DXM: it makes it so you can't do shit for like 2 days. Probably the scariest thing in the world is the fear that your eyes won't get better, that they're permanently fucked...but they do and they will get better, so don't freak out about it. Just don't plan to go on a road trip the day after, you'll kill some folks. 5. That's the more practical stuff...DXM trips can be really really sweet. They can also be really really terrifying at high doses. I tripped on DXM at high doses before I tried anything else, it definitely equipped me to handle everything else. DXM, above anything else I've tried, alters your consciousness to the point where everything is no longer the same. You have to invent new ways of conceptualizing things like time and memory, because you've been put on an entirely unfamiliar mental planet that just doesn't operate on the same laws as this one. Acid is atmosphere-altering and not just sense-altering (like the feeling that things are new, that you are on a grand adventure, that what is happening now is somehow fantastic or weird in an unexplainable way). DXM is sense-depriving, inner-outer-world-creating/destroying. What is new? fantastic? No fucking clue! Umm, well I hope I didn't make it sound too cool. High dose DXM trips are not to be taken lightly or done without proper preparation. The loss of ability to comprehend basic sense information and the way short term memory becomes completely scattered are difficult to express in words.
Damn I just wrote alot. Oh, and on high doses you hear really great music that isn't there, and that is made up by your brain. It's pretty sweet. maybe it's just me. My theory is that it has to do with the spontaneous and weird memory recall that I've had happen alot, but there's something funny about the way the brain stores music so lacking whatever barrier dxm breaks down, your brain just starts making music and playing it on repeat. Maybe it is a familiar tune but you can't recognize it anymore. there's a weird thought.
oh right, only do cough syrup that has ONLY FUCKING ONLY dextromethorphan hbr or dextromethorphan Polistirex. the second one is in delsym.It is what I've tripped on most. it is just as intense as hbr but lasts longer, and I'd imagine the extended fucked-upidness of the eyes results from using the delsym, too. It doesn't taste bad and you trip absolute face on 2 of the 5 oz bottles, which take like 3 seconds a piece to to drink and taste like concetrated orange juice. A single 5 oz bottle, at 30mg per 5ml, has 887 mg of DXM total, so...yeah I guess I've done some high doses. Fuck. Haven't looked at dxm info in awhile. I disagree with some info I'm reading here that says polistirex is weaker. It's nearly as strong and lasts twice as long, which is good and bad depending upon how you look at it. I've also never suffered nausea on it, while CVS brand, liquid and gel caps, have made me vomit. That's just me though. Here's some info about polistirex that fits with my experience: "The polistirex preparation will probably increase the ratio of DXM to DXO" "DXO is a metabolite of DXM" (You make it in your body from DXM) "Whereas DXM is strongest at the PCP2 and sigma receptors, DXO primarily targets the NMDA receptor" "The practical upshot is that the dissociative and intoxicating or "stoning" effects are stronger with DXO, whereas the stimulation, cognitive alterations, delusions, and psychotomimetic (literally, "psychosis-like") effects are stronger with DXM." "NMDA receptor is targeted by PCP, ketamine, alcohol, and DXM." "Each receptor can have more than one binding site (a place where a drug can bind to, generally affecting the activity of the receptor). For example, the NMDA channel/receptor complex has seven (glutamate, glycine, magnesium ion, zinc ion, PCP open channel site, polyamine site, and phosphorylation site). Most have fewer than this; the NMDA channel is an extremely complicated receptor." Cool shit. There's some more info that would take to up too much space, that basically explains that the NMDA receptor is related closely to the creation of intermediate-term-memory. This explains, or at least relates to, what I was saying about memory. I can't put it into words but fucking weird shit happens to memory on polistirex. I would say its like memory over the course of several years can be compressed along emotional or associative lines into an small observable, moldable thingy in your mind's eye. Think about seeing the entire course of a long relationship with someone all at once...I'm going to stop trying to explain there. Sorry that turned into another long post. I just turned in my last take home exam and can't seem to stop fucking typing.
for the record I did have a FREAKING TERRIBLE time coming down from the 2 5 oz bottle polistirix (that's what, 1774 mg? holy shit I'm an idiot) and didn't remember much of the trip. blasted into the stratosphere of a 4th plateau trip and my brain couldn't make sense enough of it to remember half of whatever happened. Coming down my entire body was vibrating and sound was flanging like on a whippet, and I started thinking that maybe I didn't have enough oxygen, and so I began hyperventilating for about 5 minutes before I was like "CALM THE FUCK DOWN" and got up and sat in a cold shower and was over it. So yeah, DON'T TAKE TWO 5 OZ BOTTLES OF DELSYM. the shit is so super easy to drink, no kidding, it might be tempting. Just say no to that much dxm unless you're a nutcase like myself. I hope all that crap I just posted is helpful to someone.
heres some good advice, dont be curious about dxm, its trash... theres nothing to learn by taking it. the point is to grow, so search for more enlightening chemicals, this one is very "wishy washy". lol
r u fuckin crazy? thats the reason why drugs should be legal... so people wont overdose on OTCs tryin to get high... u took only 120mg of dxm which wont do shit, however u took a huge dose of acetaminophen which could cause severe damage to ur liver n kidneys... oh n good luck with sleepin with that dose of pseudoephedrine... plus i dnt knw if there is such a thing as tylenol cold and sinus, isnt it tylenol cold and flu? do some research next time... oh n back to topic dxm is nasty, n people should stop doin it, go get some real drugs...
