I'm gonna do steroids

ok so heres the deal.. i can get steroids. I'm 18 and i go to the gym regularly,
every second day for a couple hours.Me and my friend are gonna try them for a set ammount of time. We're also gonna start going 2 the gym everyday.

Iv read all the websights and seen all the warnings, but i think im still up for it.



What do u guys think....i need opinions

 

It's a waste, really. Unless you are a professional athlete i don't see any advantage to taking steroids other than lazyness. The risk/reward curve just doesn't support roids, man.

 

Say bye to your balls and hello to rage and backne.

 

your dumb man

 

hahaha. how deliciously self-stultifying.

in all truth tho, steroids are a bad idea.

 

-how long have you actually been training for?
-what does your training program look like?
-what are your goals you wish to accomplish by going to the gym?
-how is your nutrition? what are your eating habits?

-what have you read? where did you read it?
-do you even know what you will be taking? do know that there are different types of steroids? do know where to inject the needle into right?
-why do you feel you need to use steroids?

some general questions for you

 

I'm dumb? And why's that? Because I know what that shit will do for you and I am not into appearance enough to risk all that so I can have big muscles?

Yea dudes inject mad steroids... when your balls shrink, you're throwing chairs across the room over spilled milk, and your back looks like a fucking zit bomb exploded maybe you will realize that you've made the wrong decision. But then again, maybe your infatuated enough with your appearance that big muscles will make up for the tiny balls and irrational anger.

 

unless your predisposed to over-the-top aggresive behavior, administering exogenous test. won't set you off in a rage like the media portrays. theres lots of misinformation about steriod use and the majority of people, including doctors know jack shit about the effects.

 

I have my notebook out and I'm ready to learn. Please, do share with us what you know about the subject.

 

Dude, don't do steroids, I'd tell you go smoke meth before to do steroids, steroids are ridiculous, roid rage, acne, gynecomastia(male breast development due to lack of natural testosernome being produced by the testicles and higher levels of estrogen) and possible long term damage to your testicles.

 

I am not talking just from media portrayal, I am talking from personal experience with people into it. I went to school with a kid who would randomly freak out over nothing and hurl chairs. Have a friend who claimed his balls shrank to a laughable size and he kept just getting pisst about everything. Another friend encountered a huuuge dude at the gas station blasting hip hop who had serious backne, and when told to turn down his music started jumping up and down yelling about smashing his head on the ground.

 

Steroids are crazy shit...Have you seen this show on tlc about women bodybuilders. They all look like men sloppily dressed in women.


Going to the gym everyday is not good if you are not like really hardcore into it and been training for years. You dont let time for the muscle to build itself back and get bigger.

Steroids must be really addictive cuz they probably make ya feel like its ok to do em. Gettin bigger. Doing exercise. Watching yourself in the mirrror and loving you.

 

from this article: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=540249

Roid Rage: Myth or Reality?

Q: I recently saw a study showing that supraphysiological doses of Testosterone didn't lead to angry outbursts or so-called "roid rage." However, I know bodybuilders who swear they feel more aggressive and short tempered when "on." What's the real scoop?

answered by Cy Wilson
A: A clear and direct establishment between Testosterone levels and aggression (in humans) has yet to be conclusively demonstrated. However, if you ask most people and even many psychologists and endocrinologists who haven’t done any direct research on the subject, they’ll likely tell you that Testosterone is responsible for aggressive behavior in humans.

Now, what I’m not going to do is deny that androgens more than likely do indirectly affect behavior whether it be via monoamine metabolism or some other pathway. On the other hand, I definitely think that psychological and genetic predispositions play a much larger role. In other words, if you’re not prone to such behavior in the first place, administering exogenous Testosterone isn’t going to lead to some psychotic episode.

So what's causing some of these people using androgens other than Testosterone to experience these "episodes?" Again, I’d say it’s the same situation, with perhaps pharmacological factors playing a slightly larger role than with Test. So, this goes back to psychological factors. Just as a simple test, survey 10 or 20 people at random and ask them what they associate Testosterone with. I can promise you nearly everyone will mention "aggression" or some synonym thereof as one of their first comments. Even your grandma has heard of "'roid rage." It’s no surprise that Hollywood has also allowed this thinking to permeate various films such as The Program and many others.

What's my point? If someone truly believes that some sort of compound is going to increase aggressive behavior, then in many cases they're going to become more aggressive. I’ve met fitness models and bodybuilders who’ve appeared in various magazines, athletes (NCAA and NFL) as well as everyday people, and I’ve yet to come across one single incident where the person had an episode of 'roid rage. In fact, they’re some of the most laid back people you’ll ever meet. And these are people that aren't, by any means, using small amounts of androgens.

On the other hand, I’ve met literally two people in my life who supposedly had such an episode. Want to know what they had in common? Both knew nothing about weight training, nutrition or androgens. Both had actually only lifted for four months. Both relayed to me that they had used Winstrol (stanozolol) and that one punched holes in his wall and the other threatened his girlfriend with a fork. Also, these guys were 18 when this happened and were relaying this story to me several years later.

I asked both if they were aware of "roid rage" prior to using the stanozolol and both were very familiar with it. Now, for those of you who don’t know, stanozolol isn't something known for any type of behavioral affect, but these guys didn’t know that. They simply behaved the way they thought they were supposed to behave when on steroids. In most cases (but certainly not all) it’s a placebo effect slightly reinforced with a small and indirect effect upon behavior via the androgen at hand.

I’ve always known that the placebo effect could play a large role, but it wasn’t until a psychologist friend of mine shared some of her findings with me that I realized the full extent. In short, she'd shown that in experiments (blinded and placebo controlled) where mood or cognition are measured, people are always going to try and guess which group they were in. She essentially gave two placebos to two groups of subjects and measured cognitive function.

What was found? A group emerged that demonstrated that the inert compound used produced a statistically significant effect upon cognition. Why? Well, the subjects were informed prior to the study that one group would be taking a compound which could potentially increase cognitive function.

This demonstrates just how powerful suggestion and the placebo effect can be, especially when it comes to mood and cognition more so than something that can be looked at physically, although that too is susceptible in many cases.

Finally, it’s important to note that those with Testosterone levels below the normal range are actually more prone to mood disorders/depression. My final answer is that yes, certain anabolic steroids may contribute to a slight behavioral change, but is it enough to send a normal human into a state of rage? No. Can it be enough to affect someone who’s already mentally ill or highly predisposed to such behavior? Yes. (4-9)*

*sources:
4. Anderson RA, Bancroft J, Wu FC. "The effects of exogenous testosterone on sexuality and mood of normal men." J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1992 Dec;75(6):1503-7.

5. Pope HG Jr, Kouri EM, Hudson JI. "Effects of supraphysiologic doses of testosterone on mood and aggression in normal men: a randomized controlled trial." Arch Gen Psychiatry. 2000 Feb;57(2):133-40; discussion 155-6.

6. O'Connor DB, Archer J, Hair WM, Wu FC. "Exogenous testosterone, aggression, and mood in eugonadal and hypogonadal men." Physiol Behav. 2002 Apr 1;75(4):557-66.

7. Doering CH, Brodie HK, Kraemer HC, Moos RH, Becker HB, Hamburg DA. Negative affect and plasma testosterone. Psychosom Med 1975; 37: 484—491.

8. Tricker R, et al. "The effects of supraphysiological doses of testosterone on angry behavior in healthy eugonadal men—a clinical research center study." J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1996 Oct;81(10):3754-8.

9. Albert DJ, Walsh ML, Jonik RH. Aggression in humans: what is its biological foundation? Neurosci Biobehav Rev 1993; 17:405—425.

 

other articles

steroids for dummies by Cy Wilson
roid rebuttal by Cy Wilson

introduction to anabolic steroids by Bill Roberts PhD
then just continue reading his articles that are continued from the one above
Anti-Estrogens and Anabolic Steroids Bill Roberts


Anabolic/Androgenic Steroid Use and Aggression I: A Review of the Evidence by Jack Darkes, PhD.
part 2

 

No man I was refering to the original poster. Sorry, looking back I wasn't very clear about that.

 

now, i'm not at all recommended the usage of anabolic steroids - far from it. just putting info out there that is not usually given to the general public.

should the 18 year old who started this thread use them - i'd say no. he's still too young, too emotionally and hormonally fragile. he'd be better off eating more and focusing better on lifting heavy before heading to steriod use (simply stated)

 

thx for all that info fitzy, it will help me make my desision in a bit

 

Yea I can believe those studies, placebo effect does a lot. Doesn't change my opinion on them, and I'd agree with fitzy.

 

i'm gonna do a two week cycle and see how things turn out