The 3 Laws

I robot brushes against such concepts
It is about the status of a thinking mind...and qualification of such
Can a machine intelligence have moral status? YES, it can.

Occam

 

i still dont understand what this post is about because these laws arnt any better than the ones already in affect that describe these 3 and more with much greater detail.....

so im still confused......is this about people, robots or just laws that one can choose to obey or defy, can be cracked by logic or what....whats going on

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics

this tells you a lot about it

Ha Ha ! thats the funniest thing I read in this thread

 

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'A HUMAN BEING' is the first words in post #1
It's an adaption of the asimov robotics laws to the human world.

And they are superior to what we have...
Private citizens are currently being frozen out of law enforcement
A theif can sue those they steal from.
A violent person can charge a defeneder of his/her home with 'excesive force'.
Many states in the US and occams Australia do not allow a person to
use whatever means needed to protect family.

Soon, if you dont call 911 and wait for rsponse YOU will be as much a criminal as the one that rapes and butchers your children.
IF YOU DEFEND YOURSELF WITH FORCE PROSCIBED BY OTHERS IN THEIR COMFORTABLE OFFICES.
Occam says if a guy comes in his house and grabs his kid.. with knife in hand. Occam will kill him..end of story.

Occam

 

i guess people get so cought up with fineprint that they dont realize how simple it would be to create and enforce laws.....and people exploit the loupholes all the time....

 

Not true - It would be terribly difficult to write laws into a robot - it would lead to catachlysmic errors - see the wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics

 

Ahem

'A HUMAN BEING' is the first words in post #1
It's an adaption of the asimov robotics laws to the human world.

There is no MI yet and wont be for quite some while.
Machine Intelligence is but placing it's first footstep

Occam spoke of humans, only.

Occam

 

I've read many accounts of dogs, and other animals exhibiting noble, selfless traits which it seems few humans share. For example, a police dog, after his master was shot, was shot in the face. He chased down the crook, and held him cornered until backup arrived to arrest him. He then died. Half his head was gone....

 

BG13

Greets friend..
again you post that which requires much thought..
How do you manage to draw so much emotion from occam with so few words?

thanks

Occam

 

'He made me so angry!'
'She depressed me so much.'
'That show bored me.'
etc.
I believe that those common phrases are misnomers. We don't have to get angry, depressed, bored, etc., we choose to. If not, we are giving power over ourselves to others, in which case we are still complicit in it.
You support me. You don't try to, and you don't mean to, but you do. If not for you, and a few others, I'd feel very alone on this thing we call the web.
Thank you my good sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar.
God be wit' ye.

 

Sounds like a friggin horror story man, was his eye hanging down on a thread of nerves and part of his brain coming out etc - gory stuff man - no wonder the crim gave up - I think I woulda give up and wanted some time to think about that horror show the world just put on

 

BG13

That has yet to be proven. And if proved.. soon lost in the misama of altered history.
Occam feels as u do... maybe it is looking into the abyss too long, as
Nieschtze proposed. After a while, it looks back into you.
And ALL changes.

Occam

 

Your humility is dubious.
I can appreciate you non usage of "I" in most of your posts however...

But denial of ego does not necessarily suggest humility.

 

Please dont speak of my way of speaking
And occam will not speak of your............

As for occams humillity. You know me not.. have never met.. have hardly talked.
Dont pretend wisdom by judging another..
Dont put ones foot in the tigers cage.

You are 134 on list of people with 'issues' on occams use of language.
[over 8 years]
Occam prevailed in 134 cases... think smart.. think...
"better things to argue about"

Occam

 

speak of my....?

 

Not proven you say? And that is important because.......?
Friends need no proof, and enemies won't believe it anyway.

Is it humble to believe that one is no better than anyone, and is it any better or worse to feel that no one is any better than he?
I may be better than many others at one thing, but someone is bound to be better than I.
It doesn't mean the person is better.
In a world of individuals comparison is ludicrous.

 

I agree with everything here except your second line, for how can one be an enemy of something they feel does not exist.

Perhaps those who believe view those who don't as an enemy. I cannot villianize something that I don't believe in. Being mindful of that allows me to still embrace those that do believe in god, even if they refuse to embrace me.

I will never challange the social teachings of Jesus, I will simply deny that he is god.

I guess calling me an athiest is somewhat inaccurate. I'm more of a humanist than anything.

 

I didn't literally mean enemy, so I should have found a better word. Maybe antagonist, detractor, critic.... I like critic, so lets go with that one.
"Be who you are and say what you mean, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter won't mind.' Dr. Suess