What is considered blasphemy against the Holy Spirit

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by osutuffy, Nov 12, 2006.

  1. ElProximo

    ElProximo Banned

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    OMG... the english language came along years after the NT is written and the original language in this case is Koine Greek.
    The tranlators have to find the english word that best matches this.
    Blasphemy works just fine here.

    But anyways, I really did find a good link on this and what Id pay attention to is where the 'believer' is taken out of the equation.
    I never even noticed that before.
    Here: http://www.christianchallenge.org/hebraic-foundations/HF026.html
     
  2. osutuffy

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    OMG... the english language came along years after the NT is written and the original language in this case is Koine Greek.

    Well, that is why I asked if anyone has the Hebrew version, since blasphemy is a word that appeared in 1300's.
    Did not know that about the NT being in Greek.
     
  3. ElProximo

    ElProximo Banned

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    Ok, but just to assure everyone that the Jews and Greeks have had a word for Blasphemy for quite a long time.
    More than 700 years ago.
     
  4. Jatom

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    osutuffy, the Greek word in Matthew 12:31 is blasphemia but the specific sin is not just blasphemia. The clause says, h de tou pneumatov blasphmia "...but the blasphemy against the Spirit" Don't concern yourself with the term "blasphemia" alone because "blasphemy against the Spirit" is the totalility of what's intended here. Also, trying to match words from Greek to English is a bit tricky. Remember, they didn't follow the same syntax as we do. For example, although "kai ho logos en ho theos" and "kai theos en ho logos" could both be translated "and the Word was God" the two Greek clauses would actually have completely different meanings simply because of the syntax.

    I haven't had a chance to read through the whole thread yet, but I did notice that you were wondering if you had commited the sin. Don't worry, it's not a sin that a believer can commit =)
     
  5. osutuffy

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    "Ok, but just to assure everyone that the Jews and Greeks have had a word for Blasphemy for quite a long time."

    I thought that Blasphemy as it is used today had a different meaning than it did then, that is why I was asking, to make sure that the use of the word blasphemy was the proper substitution for what was originally there.

    "I haven't had a chance to read through the whole thread yet, but I did notice that you were wondering if you had commited the sin. Don't worry, it's not a sin that a believer can commit =)"

    Thanks, I grew up with all these different religions and never bothered to learn any particular one. Now the things that confused me as a kid, I am taking the time to learn now. I found a translation of it, along with the link I was given by another poster, so I understand it now. I have gotten tired of saying I was a Christian without really knowing what it means to be Christian. I'd like to actually live up to the name of being a Christian for a change. :D
     
  6. Jatom

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    osutuffy, the specific blasphemy mentioned in that passage is "blasphemy against the Spirit." You can think of it as it's own term, and, as I'm sure the articled pointed out, it is defined for you in the passage itself.

    As far as how blasphemy is used today, I'm not sure. I don't think I know anybody who uses "blasphemy" in their everday speak. Maybe it just has something to do with the area I am from, I don't know. As far as the Biblical use of the term, Strong defines it as "1) slander, detraction, speech injurious, to another's good name 2) impious and reproachful speech injurious to divine majesty" But again keep in mind that "blasphemy of the Spirit" (not "blasphemy) in the sin in question here.

    There is no better place to start then with His word in which is His holy character is defined. Do you attend a church? I'll keep you in my prayers.
     

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