Methylone's Comeup

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by max666, Oct 25, 2006.

  1. max666

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    So I've had about 100 or so mgs of Methylone spread out during a few hours. I felt some kind of a peak for a few minutes but nothing strong. I also tried about 30 40 mgs in one shot and didnt peak at all, just felt my chest pound. I'd take the reg 175 or so mg dosage but it seems like my chest would pound way too hard. How closely related is methylone to meth? does ur heart beat really fast when ur coming up on 175? and does it stop after u start peaking? or do u just not notice anymore cause of the serotonine release? anyways im hesitant in taking more as it felt like it was pounding a bit as is and it would be like alota crack if id take the normal dose. I dont like my heart going like that unless im working out but atleast than it stops after a while.. Afraid of a heart attack, am i overly concerned, how safe is methylone? do u guys have a hard come up with methylone? is it worth it afterwards?
    I dont remember MDMA having the same effect even with speed laced pills, though maybe i didnt pay atention back than, i duno.
     
  2. nofx1422

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    Take it all in one dose, redosing after 30mins only prolonges the speedy comedown. When you say you tried 30-40mg in one shot, do you mean IV?
     
  3. fryingsquirrel

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    Methylone or any stimulant will increase your heart rate, though I've never taken my pulse on it, or anything else. It's not gonna give you a heart attack unless you have a bad heart or take a massive dose. I've IVed it up to 150 mgs, no increase in potency over oral, and no rush. It seems safe enough, just not terribly interesting.
     
  4. max666

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    No, I meant shot because i put it in soda and drink it. thats weird how IVing it doesnt increase potency compared to oral administration. Itd be interesting to have a pulse monitor so i can hook it up and compare heart rate and time when im runing then compare that to say Methylone.
     
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    How closely related is methylone to meth? does ur heart beat really fast when ur coming up on 175? and does it stop after u start peaking? or do u just not notice anymore cause of the serotonine release? How safe is methylone? and is it worth it?
     
  6. nofx1422

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    Of the rats that Ive given methylone to about 70% found it worthwhile, there did seem to be very different effects for different people. None mentioned extreme heart rates or BP. At 175mg methylone is safe, but Im no doctor...
     
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    Methamphetamine is only very loosely related to Methylone. Amphetamine has similiar effects to Cathinone, and likewise Meth-Amphetamine to Meth-Cathinone (Khat). I explained this before in some other thread quite recently, but MDMA = MD + Methamphetamine, and Methylone = MDMC = MD + Methcathinone. Where MD is Methylenedioxy-.

    P.S. There is a different drug in PiHKAL labeled MDMC, which Shuglin suggests should actually be called EDMA... confusing.
     
  8. max666

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    MDMC is methylone? i thought Methylone is 2-methylamino-1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)propan-1-one
    where as MDMC says its 3,4-ETHYLENEDIOXY-N-METHYLAMPHETAMINE ...
    is MDMA an Amphetamine? it didnt feel speedy when i had it..
     
  9. fryingsquirrel

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    You're right, and that's why he said it was confusing. MDMA-MethyleneDioxyMethAMPHETAMINE.
     
  10. max666

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    why are people claiming that methylone has a speedy comedown? does that mean just as its starting to wear off it starts to speed up? yet it isnt speedy during the come up or during the platue phase? that doesnt really make sense to me. dont drugs usually intensify as they take off and then decrease as they fade? with methylone is it just that once the seritonine releases no1 notices the speedy effects of the drug anymore, even though those speedy effects are really more pronounced then then at the ending of it?
     
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    Once the entactogenic qualities (which dont come clsoe to MDMA IMO) wear off, the effects become more boring and stimulating. Most people I know that have tried it want t redose at this point
     
  12. max666

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    this is probably somewhat off topic but does anybody know your average heart rate? heart rate when runing? heart rate on MDMA, Coke, Meth, Methylone, Herion? what about phychedelics do they have any effect? LSD,Mushrooms,2ci,2cb,2ce? and any other drugs that you know of....
     
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    M1 seems to have an effect on similar areas as say cocaine. Those who I have spoken with indicate they feel VERY similar at certain states and they get the same "jones" for more feeling with both, though w/ M1 it is nowhere nearly as strong.

    FWIW
     
  14. max666

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    wow, yeah that kinda sucks as i was hoping itd be more of a variation on mdma. somewhat different but still very clean and non-speedy. i took small amounts of m1, noticed that after the heart started speeding up harde nough that it would go threw the head and u feel a head rush comin on with it. anyways after experimenting with small amounts i was and still am very hesistant in tryin the full 175mg dose. also i noticed that you can think really fast on it.
     
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    If Methylone is simliare in effects to cocaine than is it safe to say that it should not be mixed with methadone,opuim,herion,vicadin or even pot as that usualy gets the heart going a lil faster in the begining too?
    is there a mdma analogue that isnt cocaine like? maybe mdbm or some other?
     
  16. The Flow

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    Methylone is nothing else than beta-keto-MDMA, so the closest relative of Methylone is (chemically) MDMA. That´s why the effects are quite similar.

    But if you´re used to take Phenethylamines regularly, the Methylone effects might be quite weak; almost zero if you trip one day after an MDMA trip. This is because your brain might lack Serotonine, the most important neurotransmitter to make an amphetamine work. Taking some 5-HTP capsules (a precursor of Serotonine, available at several places among the internet) can improve your Serotonine level and make the pills work again (helps also again the hangover a couple of days after a really high dosed MDMA- or Methylone-trip).
     

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