DOI confusion

chill, but do you expect it would be accurate enoguh to measure out DOI?

 

I doubt it, it used to jump around on me, and FWIU anything under 10 mg's on it is innacurate...

I mean I'm not one to tell people to not do something, but ask yourself if you really want to have what feels like a dirty acid trip for approximately 24 hours.

 

I am not really well researched on DOx substances but if it is water soluble I think a safe bet would be to measure out a large amount and disolve it in water and use the liquid method of dosing that is on Erowid. Or you could use alcohol if it is soluble in that, but for all I know mixing DOx with even a small amount of alcohol in your system could be pretty bad for you, so if you do it this way you may want to evaporate the solution after you have dosed out the amount you want to take.

 

theres the My-Weight Gem Pro http://balance.balances.com/scales/9
it has 30gram capacity and 0.001 readability, its $166

than theres the Acculab VIC http://balance.balances.com/scales/906/
it has 120gram capacity and 0.001 readability, its $246

seems to me the extra $90 for the acculab is going into the 90gram capacity diference, so im guessing these 2 scales are prety much the same as far as accuracy goes.

has anyone used either one of these scales?are they as accurate as theyre saying? Any problems with them? Are they good enough for 2c-x, DOx measurements?

 

Get the Acculab. The extra $$ goes to things like a relatively drift-free reading, repeatability, reliability, etc.

It will drift when AC current fluctuates, or on humid days. I would feel confident weighing out 10mg of a DOx, putting it in a graduated cylinder, and adding a 80%dH2O/20%EtOH soln to make 20 mL at 0.5mg/mL.

 

what is relativly drift free reading? and when does AC current fluctuates? would u need to do that soultion measuing thing if ur just measuring out 2c-x's?

 

DOx need an accurate weigh in more than a 2c-x does, I eyeball 2c-x shit all the time and I am still alive and kickin but I wouldn't eyeball a DOx if you paid me to. Also don't eyeball 2c-x as it is retarded, I just happen to be a retard. (Actually got a scale now so I don't do that anymore!) and no you really don't need to use liquid method for anything if you got a scale accurate enough to do it by itself.

 

I cancelled my order for the cheapo and ordered the Acculab. More delays to my experimentation, but worthwhile.

Should be here this week. Expect a trip report with the quickness.

 

What about the My Gem Pro weight scale, how accurate is that one?

 

/me does a hapy dance

My acculab scale got here today...

hell yes.

Watch this space for a DOI trip report in the next few days.

 

^^^ It's really good for the price. Be extra careful with that DOI, mate, it's not a joke... arty:

 

Thus far, I've sampled DOI twice. The first time, with 3.5 mgs, which all the info I had seen lead me to believe I'd be on a ridiculously strong trip, ultimately amounted to nothing. I got slight visuals for a while, but they were visuals that normally precede stronger visuals, very slight in nature. I also experienced inomnia, and was unable to sleep the whole night despite dosing at noon.

The second time, I bumped the dose up to 4 mgs. This was quite a bit more intense than the first one. Strong visuals, yet nothing all that interesting, no wisdom offered (when considering things I had intended to meditate on during the trip, I found myself with little more insight than my normal sober self), and it was physically uncomfortable. The whole time, I simply could not get comfortable, and my muscles ached the next day. In addition, despite dosing at 7 am in an effort to avoid previous unpleasantries, I still could not get any sleep until 1 am the next night.

After the initial 3 hours, I found myself quite capable of operating around normal sober society, and hung out with a number of close friends with which I've shraed many psychedelic journeys, who never caught on that I wasn't completely sober.

While I'm glad to have experienced DOI, it's not territory I'm likely to re-enter. I would recommend trying it, but I certainly would not tell you to go out of your way to get ahold of some.

For the moment, I'm storing the rest of the 50mgs and moving on to something more interesting. Specifically, I want to get some 2c-e, but my only suplier for it (or rather, my only reasonably priced supplier - I have no desire to hand out 300+ USD for a gram of 2c-e. lol) is completely out, with no restock in sight. Woe is me...

BTW, ty to everyone that posted in this thread. Special thanks to those that recommend the Acculab over the Gempro, as it's an investment that I can already tell will pay dividends in the future.

 

Oh, and 2cesarewild:

I've never come across LSD yet, but I did note a very dirty feeling to the trip, as well as a heavy body load.

That's the reason I'd like to move on to something else.

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but /|\
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Oh, and I've been meaning to ask how you're feeling. I hope things have improved.

 

No. Spinal tap this week.

 

I eyeballed multiple doses of DOI and DOC to multiple people (I warned them beforehand, 2 of them tripped for 2 days + and went to the hospital). I did more of both than either of my two fellow idiots and never went to the hospital. Don't bother with DOI, as DOC should be as easy to obtain, and lacks the stimulation, tenseness, and lack of desirable psychedelic properties. For me, DOI involved 2 hours of solid tripping, and 11+ hours of stimulation and a pang of brain weirdness. DOC (at an obscenely high dose) was 12+ hours of beautiful visuals (crystilline tubes connecting all parts of my house, which liquid flowed through and moved the girders of my house), and delusions of grandeur. DOI is essentially what I assume tweaking and amphetamine psychosis would be similar to.

 

DOI really demands liquid measure, gram in a liter vodka=1mg/ml Looks pretty fucking impressive, too.

Sadly, that is simply not true.

You assume in error.

 

All the vendors I've had who've stocked DOI have also had DOC. Just my personal experience.

 

um i actually like DOx chemicals alot...best experience of my life went to a sweet rave 2 tabs of DOx and 2 rolls,chilled with the devil and then saw god.really good if visuals are important part.only had one bad experience so far.

for a shorter trip try taking anti-psychotic scripts
i used cerequil worked like magic!