For a while now I've been really interested to try some salvia. I've told some people to see what their vibes are and they all say it's not worth it, it's no fun, very unpleasant, and crap since it only lasts a few minutes. I still can't help being really attracted to it though, it seems like my perfect drug. I've read places that you can live lifetimes in a salvia trip so I don't think the shortness of it actually matters. Can you actually tell that it's really short, or do you have no concept of time whatsoever? I also am wondering which extract I should do for my first time. I was hoping to find something lower than 5x so I can build up. How intense is 5x? I probably won't try it really soon, but I'd still like to know
I'd say don't do it. If you want to do it to get "messed up" then it's a bad drug for you. It can be very pleasent and meaningful, but sometimes just turns out to be a really goofy situation that you don't understand. Also, 5x will not produce much of a trip, just a very strong buzz for about 30 to 45 minutes.
yeah while ur tripping time dosnt exist. 5X should be good a first try. the first time i did it i did 20X and it was way too strong
I'm not at all wanting to do it to get 'messed up,' that's exactly what bothers me about most kids my age. I respect all drugs and will not abuse them or use them for reasons I don't feel comfortable with. I've thought long about salvia and have read a lot of people's experiences. The spiritual aspect is what attracts me. I want to learn from it, whether it confuses me or not, I know I'll understand what it tells me one day. Thanks for the input anyway.
5x should be fine. It won't be too intense if you just take one hit that ins't really huge or anything. Don't forget to hold it in or you'll be disappointed. -Mike
5X is good for a beginner. It's usually not nearly enough to send you on a spiritual journey, but it's a great place to start. In my personal experience though, chewing the leaves as a quid is by far the best way to go. I have the most profound experiences when I chew the leaves. Not to mention I like to keep my lungs nice and healthy
Many people feel salvia is just too strange, unpleasent and frightening because they have tried strong extracts the first time they did it. Everyones tolerance is different but I really feel it is unwise to sell extracts over 5x, it gives salvia a bad reputation as a scary and powerful drug. Salvia can be very interesting in the lower doses you get from plain leaf and it can be very unpleasant but also intensly mindblowing by use of extracts. Try plain leaf the first few times just to get the feel of it, then try 5x. It's true that time loses it's meaning on salvia but this concept is hard to grasp even after trying it many times. The realization that time dosn't exist can be frightening. If you are uncomfortable with the salviaexperience you are having, you feel like you may be trapped there forever. In a sober state I can still not grasp the wierdness of salvia, it's like a dream that you had weeks ago, you can still remember the things that you dreamt but you can't remember the feeling you had. Oddly that is the same feeling you have about reality when you smoke salvia, it seems like reality was just a dream that you have now awakened from. 5x can be extremely intense, I have no problem reaching a level 5 trip with it and the aftereffects last up to two hours (slipping in and out of salviareality). I would never consider trying anything stronger myself. Though some people talk of spiritual journeys and wonderful magical places, this is not what I have experienced on 5x. I usually get sliced by invisible giant razors or fractured into small glass-like mosaic tiles before being sucked though a vortex into a 2-dimensional univers were little gnomes work the machinery that produces the reality we see in our normal state of mind. It is all a hoax, we are being decieved into thinking we are real, and the world, our families and friends are just illusions. We are just puppets with no free will, in fact we do not really exist. Those are scary thoughts/trips. 5x is easier to dose, if you want a 10x experience just double the dose. It's harder to dose 20x. The smoke is not as unpleasent as people say, actually I think it is easier on the lungs than cigarette- or MJ-smoke.
I don't want to give irresponsible advice, but I actually think the stronger extracts are safe to use - as long as you keep it to just a pinch. If you're attracted to it , I don't see a problem with giving it a go. As far as health goes the risks are very low. People's response to this herb seems to be so variable that you probably aren't going to get definitive advice from anybody, no matter how experienced... I'm not someone who attaches quasi-religious terminology to salvia normally, but i do think it's optimum use is "sacramental", in the sense that it should be treated with respect and used in circumstances that are quiet and reflective. You may experience uncontrolled hilarity. On the other hand you might be frightened. If and when you do try it, let us know how it goes.
Nothing irresponsible about that. They definitley take less and that is something people should take into consideration when using them. I like the stronger extracts personally. I think certain people, adjust to salvia, more so than others.
Great! Have fun! I'd say try 5x,6x or 7x for you first time. It isn't very intense and it gives you an idea of what stronger extracts are like. It's nice to be in a noiseless, chill environment, because you can still get annoyed or paranoid easily. Have a wonderful time!
Hi, first off, thanks for all the info on salvia! i decided to try it 2 weeks ago and read every post available! I bought a gram of 10x standarised flavoured, blueberry i belive, what most people seem to do is have a fucking lot in one go, shit one's self . the vine man said in a post that you can expect to get 40 hits out of a gram of 10x, so i tried a 40th at first, all was cool so moved up to a 20th, could feel that, (the pins and needles and gravity) I have upped the dosage today to a 6th of a gram, you realy can feel it but i had no visuals as such, just a strong feeling of buzzing, pins and needles buzzing and visual distortion, im glad im doing it this way rather than hitting alot on my first go cause my mates want a laugh, What my advise is, do as i did, read every post as far back as you can, start off with a tiny amount!! (you've nothing to prove!) work your way up the levels, my first hit did nothing, i gave it a day meditated for 10mins tried a bit more, it did a little, tried more the next day etc etc, its just better than taking your head off smoking a quarter of the vile in one go, and im hoping when i do get there Lady S will be easy on me cause i payed her a bit of respect, I Know im not gonna break through on my first gram but i think it will be special when i do, Dont get me wrong ,from what i have already felt, SALIVA IS A FUCKING STRONG DRUG! i could feel its strengh, thats why im glad i didnt take the piss! Take care!!!
could i just add to that, writing that made me wanna try more, this time it was,, well led back singing twinkle twinkle little star but after 3 times i sang twinkle twinklw little star, i dont know whaat the fuck you are! giggled a bit, and proceded to say thank you, over and over, my whole face is humming, no visuals though, but i reckon a 15 stone bloke singing twinkle twinkle little star, means something happened (dont think i sang it out loud). this is realy strong, but i think im in love with lady s! all the time there was a sound like a factory siren or fog horn going off, as i was coming out the siren was fading, and i was thinking noo, and asking it not to, i have posted this live, the siren came back and i had to take a few mins, if treated correctly salvia is beautifull, i cant wait to go back even though it hasnt even worn off fully yet,,
can i just add, i used a bong with butane torch lighter, and THAT was amazing!! and i forgot that i even smoked, forgot who i was, forgot about time, purley because i didnt care, too busy singing and thanking! lol thanks
well i've come across a wide range of possible reactions to salvia, but twinkle twinkle little star is a new one on me. if you're singing it loudly you might have social services calling round soon..... that last post was highly reminiscent of my experiences, without the twinkle.....
:& WTF, Dont know what happened there! was like a childhood regression or something, also im pretty sure i wasnt singing it, sort of dreaming it . anyways, i loved it! there was no fear, nothing bad about it at all! gonna have a few days off and have another pop! the factory siren was my pc fan, i spun out this morning when i could still hear it
that's amazing. i think, if you've read up and got your setting all worked out (gotten rid of anything that you can possibly imagine being scary or dangerous in any abstract way), and you're in a good state of mind, you might as well jump in. even if you go to level 5 the first time and scare yourself absolutely shitless, it will be over soon. and if you just get a taste, you might be too scared to go any further. people i know who were going to work their way up, end up giving up or not wanting to go back. people who break through their first time are shaken for a while, but then want to experience it again. but everyone's different.
Hi, I think the biggest problem is just before i smoke, i start worrying if im in the right frame of mind, i have convinced myself many times that im not in the correct state, im starting to think that if its possible to convince myself im not ready then i am not! or maybe im reading way too much into it. Anyways, ive boshed all the 10x in, ive bought some standard leaf (waste of time) i cant hold that much smoke in, and some organic 15x, still never had any visuals, but the ichy pins and needles feeling gets me every time, theres no rush though I WILL break through one day. I dont want to break through and shit myself, i may put myself off doing again and ive taken quite an interest in salvia, even bought myself 3 plants
