Scouting, Vision, FS directives, speaking up now, please

Discussion in 'Rainbow Family' started by hippiestead, Oct 25, 2006.

  1. hippiestead

    hippiestead Ms.Cinnamon

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    In case I haven't said this earlier; me'n'JuJu were asked to help get info around for Rainbow 2007 & the stages of getting Rainbow 2007 together. This e-mail came in today:
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    Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:09:24 -0600
    >To: AAGR


    >Howdy,
    > One of the major considerations of Scouting for an Annual
    > Gathering is the elements of Circumstance and Vision. Sailor
    > pointed out a circumstance, a conversation with a worker, mention
    > of Indian Prairie, 1997, and then, after water is looked at, and
    > other common sense provisions, then comes the sense of Gathering,
    > of experiencing the People being on the Land, before they come
    > there, a Vision of the Home, a Sense of the Annual Gathering. At
    > times, one can almost hear the drums and songs, laughter of our
    > children at play.
    >
    > Once, in Nevada, 1989, Robbinson's Hole, walking on the Site
    > up for consideration, a youn'un, a scout in his own right, (like
    > his family, daddy and mom, et. al.) spoke up and said, "can't you
    > see the people already". I looked out, yep, i could see them, a
    > while later walking John Buffalo, i asked him, and sure enuf he
    > started seeing them too... I shared consensus, that turned out to
    > be the Site...
    >
    > In the Spring, in the fresh blush of budding life, when
    > the People come seeking a Home Site, the Earth opens out, shares
    > where the water is, and will be, and how the land fare during the
    > Winter, harsh or mild. So many things, and beyond this, is a vibe,
    > a calling if you want to call it that, to a certain land, for a
    > Home place for the Rainbow Family Tribe and friends to Gather in July.
    >
    > Scouting in the Spring, with Circles, folks coming to
    > Spring Circle (which started out as a time for folks to show up and
    > bring resources, help jumpstart the set-up, help out for a
    > weekend).... all this helps Guide folks to where the Home Site should be...
    > Only the People can ever choose for sure, because the
    > Govt does not operate with Vision as criteria, only the People,
    > Rainbow People and other folks who seek to Gather for peace in
    > peace also have the criteria of Vision.
    >
    > (2) Folks, it is necessary for the Forest Service, mark
    > Rey, and others to put in writing... something I and others can
    > take to court that is specifically works out the issues. Thank you,
    > but his is necessary... for all peoples' rights and uses of the
    > national forests and public lands.
    >
    > (3) if any of you have ever had a good moment with some FS person,
    > LEO or Resource, and want to do something... now is the time to
    > speak to these people, write to them, lobby them, for this change
    > in application of 36 CFR 251..
    > write, lobby, call, Mark Rey, John Twiss, Bosworth, et. al... NOW
    > is an opportune time... not just write to one another, but to the
    > Government... lyour congressional people, NOW please.. thank you
    > barry, plunker, montana, rainbow family tribe
     
  2. hippiestead

    hippiestead Ms.Cinnamon

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    This mornings messages; fs e-dress have been left on so that anyone who wishes can contact them

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    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Date: Oct 25, 2006 10:13 PM
    Subject: Fwd: Please forward to ThanksGiving Circle/council, to all points of light, tks -**Fw: USFS 2007 Rainbow, msg from Mark Rey, Undersecretary of Ag.



    >To: <Mark.Rey@usda.gov>, tflorich@fs.fed.us
    >

    >Subject: Please forward to ThanksGiving Circle/council, to all
    >points of light, tks -**Fw: USFS 2007 Rainbow, msg from Mark Rey,
    >Undersecretary of Ag.
    >Cc: AAGR, jeff kline,<amelle@fs.fed.us>, < KThorsen@fs.fed.us>,
    ><dbosworth@fs.fed.us>, Gail van der Bie
    >< gvanderbie@fs.fed.us>,**John C Twiss
    >< jctwiss@fs.fed.us>,**< dferrell@fs.fed.us>
    >
    >Howdy Mark Rey, et.al.,
    >
    >****** Indirectly, I received this communique from your personal
    > envoy, Jeff Kline, to an individual, who apparently is hoping to
    > help with scouting this year in the coming region of Arkansas,
    > Oklahoma, and Texas.
    >******** I am forwarding this communique to ThanksGiving
    > Circle/council, which will be the next opportunity for those People
    > of the Rainbow Family who are volunteering or sharing energy on
    > this coming Annual Gathering July 1-7, to come together -- yet to
    > be announced where.
    >******** For many years now, as Forest Service and your offices are
    > aware, Thanksgiving opens the Circle, begins the process of Counci,
    > for the upcoming 2007 Annual Gathering. I am forwarding this
    > letter/email through the internet, etc...
    >
    >******** I hope for clarification of a few questions, which follow,
    > and I would like to offer a simple suggestion for a directive
    > concerning applying 36 CFR 251 to accommodate groups, assemblies,
    > associations like/similar to Rainbow Family Tribe and the Annual
    > Gathering. I offer it in many words, I am sure it can be written in
    > fewer words.
    >
    >******** My questions: is Jeff Kline acting officially? Is this
    > offering genuine? If so, would you, personally, and the Chief of
    > Forest Service, write a simple directive to all Districts, one of
    > cooperation?**Also, these communications have included conference
    > calls between Jeff Kline, Forest Service, and various individuals
    > (?) of the Rainbow Family Tribe i.e. Rainbow Family volunteers for
    > 2007 Annual. These communications include your envoy Jeff Kline and
    > John Twiss, Law Enforcement Chief, Forest Service. Jeff Kline,
    > perhaps, is also working as an envoy for the Forest Service?
    >
    >******** My suggestion is:
    >******** Directive authorize District Rangers, Regional Supervisors,
    > Law Enforcement,**to apply 36 CFR 251, section that
    > reads"authorized officer shall offer an alternative manner" -- so
    > as to open greater access to the national forest, to include
    > groups, assemblies, individuals that can only meet certain
    > application requirements concerning**responsibility for the actual
    > issues necessary i.e. public health, sanitation, environmental
    > concerns, public safety BUT who cannot meet the signature
    > requirement, etc..** i.e. not sign a permit, etc.**- on religious,
    > free speech, peaceable assembly reasons, etc.. --

    >******** This "alternative manner"**shall include Reservation i.e.
    > notification - this has been done already, communication has begun
    > on 2007 Annual Gathering, at the 2006 Annual Gathering, Tom, permit
    > administrator for 2007 Annual**came "informally", came to
    > Cooperations Circle, and on July 1, came to Circle/council, at
    > Noon, and spoke, informally - in these conversations Tom stated he
    > would be permit administrator for 2007 Annual and Garrick Beck,
    > myself,**others have written to Tom, so on-going communications has
    > begun -- these communications have included conference calls
    > between various individuals (?) of the Rainbow Family Tribe i.e.
    > Rainbow Family volunteers for 2007 Annual, and your envoy Jeff
    > Kline and John Twiss, Law Enforcement Chief, Forest Service. Jeff
    > Kline, perhaps, is also working as an envoy for the Forest Service?
    >
    >******** For my information, and for forwarding to ThanksGiving
    > Circle, I would appreciate your answers to these questions. I
    > personally would like to thank you for making this offer - for me,
    > (and many others), Direct communications is preferred -- rather
    > than through an "envoy" --**to all the 2007 Annual Gathering
    > People. Announcements can be made on a number of available internet
    > sites, very familiar to the Forest Service, if you post them to me,
    > I will forward outward to all points of light, to all the interested people.
    >
    >******** I would love to see normal relationship with Resource
    > people of the Forest Service. Eventually, the in-district LEO's can
    > handle any calls made by the Gathering for assistance -- see
    > Operating Plan, 2006 Annual Gathering, draft -- this Operating Plan
    > went through Circle June 30th, with hundreds of people giving
    > Consensus, for every word ----
    >
    >******** -- even while withstanding many indignities that included:
    > pepper-spray, strip-searches of women by male officers, invasions
    > of every sort, violence by LEO's took place, sad stuff -- because
    > of the strong community spirit of Peace and Unity, gathering folks
    > came together, the chant was PEACE, WE WIN! Strong, beautiful,
    > mostly young people, standing strong together, keeping the peace,
    > agreeing to this Operating Plan --
    >
    >******** - Forest Service Resource could not work with us "formally"
    > on this, however, Kent Foster, fire guy, and Resource worked
    > "informally" with Rainbow Gatherers, used the Operating Plan as
    > guidelines, in regards to Cook/warming Fires, Forest Service came
    > in, walked around, inspected, and certified... and before Forest
    > Service did this, Gathering Fire Watch inspected, certified
    > rainbow-style... other resource, envirnonmental, public health,
    > sanitation, and clean-up, etc.. the guidelines were contained in
    > the Draft Operating Plan.
    >
    >******** Note: this is a similar process of Operating Plan i.e. a
    > Site is found, early people on Site fully explore the Site, develop
    > with Resource Forest Service, through cooperation, communications
    > on-site -- see resource and rainbow, oregon 1997 report, excellent
    > relationship...**As in Penn 1999, District Ranger and/or resource,
    > work out with Gatherers, on-site, an Operating Plan, mutual
    > agreement, then, if Forest Service want to "certify" that all the
    >resource, public health, safety, sanitation needs are met, then they
    >can issue said certification. Come in respect July 1, give it to the
    >Annual Gathering.
    >
    >****** There have been many CHANGES IN APPLYING this regulation -
    > this would be simple. And then, approach ThanksGiving Circle, in
    > respect -- I would be happy with all this, if things get worked out
    > in this way - no fuss, no muss.
    >
    >********** Scouting always must be done in the Spring, regardless of
    > other considerations, because in the Spring is when how much water
    > there is? and other environmental reasons - heaven forbid, but
    > their might be a hurricane, etc.. Scouting in the Spring, done in
    > cooperation with District people -- trust needs to be developed in
    > this area, for sure.
    >
    >******** If things worked out, wow, wouldn't it be good, if Forest
    > Service and Rainbow showed up at town meetings, worked out problems
    > of people on the streets, etc..., with local authorities, in mutual
    > cooperation. Imagine inflow and outflow, with LEO and Shanti Sena,
    > working out the people problems, without adversity between. John
    > Lennon would be happy.
    >******** Please reply to my questions concerning how formal this
    > offer is? I certainly have every hope it means peace communications
    > can begin, and perhaps, after so many years, there could be Peace
    > between the Forest Service and Rainbow Family Tribe, so the Annual
    > Gathering of the Tribes for PEACE, July 1-7, can happen in Peace.
    >
    >******** Thank you,
    >******** Barry Adams, plunker, Montana, Rainbow Family Tribe
    >
    >
    >
    >>Subject: Fw: USFS 2007 Rainbow
    >>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:25:13 -0700
    >>
    >>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:01 AM
    >>Subject: Fwd: USFS 2007 Rainbow
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>---------- Forwarded message ----------
    >>From: Jeff Kline <<mailto: Jeff@hcnmedia.com> Jeff@hcnmedia.com>
    >>Date: Oct 16, 2006 10:53 PM
    >>Subject: USFS 2007 Rainbow
    >>
    >>
    >>Thank you for offering to do some advance scouting for the 2007
    >>Gathering.**I understand that you've reserved flights to arrive in
    >>Oklahoma City on November 1 st and then to proceed to Arkansas and
    >>then down to Texas making a loop of the various potential Forest
    >>sites.**I understand that you are inviting others to join you on
    >>this Scouting expedition.
    >>
    >>The Under Secretary of Agriculture for Natural Resources, who
    >>oversees the USFS, would like to facilitate a peaceful Gathering
    >>and has offered the following:
    >>
    >>The USFS is in the process of identifying six potential sites for
    >>the 2007 Rainbow gatherings with 2 sites to be identified in TX, AR
    >>& OK for a total of 6 potential sites.**Each site identified by
    >>USFS is supposed to contain a large meadow, water, springs (for
    >>drinking water), forest cover fringing the meadow for camping and
    >>dead & down wood for campfires.**They are also supposed to ID an
    >>adjacent meadow or appropriate site for parking cars at least 1
    >>mile from Main Meadow.
    >>
    >>USFS will verify that each potential site has no T&E, Cultural or
    >>other conflicts that would prevent USFS from issuing a permit for a
    >>large non-commercial group gathering.
    >>
    >>USFS will provide the name and contact info for a USFS Resource
    >>person at each National Forest who will be available to assist you
    >>and other Scouts.
    >
    >>USFS would like Rainbow Scouts to visit the sites they've located
    >>during the Fall of 2007 to:
    >>
    >>A.**Reserve one or more sites as potential locations for the 2007
    >>National Gathering; and/or
    >>
    >>B.**Tell the USFS that none of the sites meets Rainbow criteria and
    >>to suggest one or more sites that would, and that Family would like
    >>to reserve for summer of 2007.
    >>
    >>USFS has agreed that they will not target or prosecute anyone who
    >>comes to them in advance to help plan an appropriate site.
    >>
    >>**In consideration of Family visiting and reserving sites in
    >> advance, the Under Secretary is seriously considering appointing a
    >> resource or recreation forester as Incident Commander.
    >>
    >>Once 1 - 3 sites have been reserved, should Family choose to set up
    >>seed camp on any one of them, the USFS resource team will work with
    >>Family to define the operating plan; and the 2007 USFS Incident
    >>Commander will issue and personally sign the non-commercial group
    >>use permit as the "contact person," which will give the Permit legal effect.
    >>
    >>All further discussions with the USFS will take place on the Site
    >>during the Gathering in open council.
    >>
    >>Separately,**USFS asked that Family suggest USFS staff who are now
    >>stationed in the AR/OK/TX region with whom we have had positive
    >>relations and with whom we'd like to work so USFS can inquire to
    >>see if they'd like to be part of the Incident Command team for the
    >>007 Gathering.
    >>
    >>**Peace & Light,
    >>Jeff
    >>
    >>**---------------------
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >[This was the result of a meeting including gatherers and some Forest
    >Service resource rangers at a meeting in co-operations meadow, and was
    >formally consensed to at Dinner Circle. -BB]
    >
    >DRAFT
    >
    >Rainbow Gathering 2006 Operating Plan - 6/28/2006
    >
    >The Annual Gathering of Tribes and the Rainbow Family Tribe have the
    >Constitutional Right to Peaceably Assemble
    >
    >*Communications:
    >
    >To facilitate communications on these land use issues, a request is
    >being made for FS Resource People to come daily to Cooperations (near
    >INFO) at noon,
    >
    >*Fire Plan and Emergency Evacuation Plan:
    >
    >Cooking/Heating fires ONLY are to be lit, with water and fire tools at
    >hand.
    >
    >*Fire Watch will patrol entire camp.
    >
    >Fireworks are STRONGLY discouraged.
    >
    >An Emergency Evacuation Plan is being disseminated It is being
    >developed between Kent Foster and Gatherers.
    >
    >*Medical and Health:
    >
    >Health and Safety issues are worked out with Gatherers and all Medical
    >Personnel shall be allowed ingress and egress, including for Medi-Vac
    >evacuations.
    >
    >Helicopter Medi-Vac landing zones have been designated, and shall be
    >cleared for landings, as needed.
    >
    >*Peace-Keeping:
    >
    >Peace-Keeping is provided by Gatherers at the site. When needed,
    >appropriate law enforcement officers will be contacted.
    >
    >Volunteer Peace-Keeping is being done on the outer roads and in town
    >whenever possible.
    >
    >For Peace-Keeping purposes, communications is essential. More
    >cooperation with local authorities on traffic patterns and local
    >situations would be appreciated.
    >
    >A request is being made for Law Enforcement Officer Patrols to be
    >Removed of Reduced. If a law enforcement problem occurs it will be
    >discussed with Gatherers.
    >
    >If law enforcement assistance is required, it will be requested by
    >Gatherers.
    >
    >*Traffic:
    >
    >On roads fire lanes will be left open. Traffic will he handled between
    >Gatherers and Resource and Public Safety Personnel.
    >
    >*Clean-up and Site Rehabilitation:
    >
    >Clean-up and restoration is continuous throughout the Gathering.
    >Garbage is being recycled and removed. Further naturalization and
    >restoration planning will be worked out between on-site clean-up crews
    >and FS Resource Personnel.
    >
    >"We are Gathering:
    >We don't burn the forest down
    >and we will clean it ALL up when we are through."
    >
    >
    >
    >-----------------
    >
    >**********"Any and all "formal or official" agreements, plans,
    > permits etc... et. al. must go through Rainbow Process/way i.e.
    > individuals or whoever propose to Cooperations Circle, and then
    > onto Circle July 1-7, for any affirmation that may effect the
    > Annual Gathering and/or Rainbow Family and/or Rainbow Family Tribe
    > and/or any and all individuals attending Annual Gatherings."
     
  3. poorphucker

    poorphucker Member

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    How many hippies does it take to sell out Rainbow?

    Stayed tuned.... and we will see!
     
  4. hippiestead

    hippiestead Ms.Cinnamon

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    It's been sounding like it might only take one FS rep for 2007 & that's sad......

    us, we ain't signing no stinking permits
     
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