Mr RangerDanger

Discussion in 'Cannabis Outdoors' started by Mr Fancy Pants, Oct 23, 2006.

  1. Mr Fancy Pants

    Mr Fancy Pants Member

    Messages:
    194
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hello i would just think you would like to know that i am planning my first guirella grow. i have all my friends saving their seeds for me (since its my first guirella grow i dont really think that strains will matter) ive read your guirella growing post a couple times and will read it a couple more. ive also read a couple grow books and will read more. im going to go get some trail maps of some nearby mountains soon and starting planning where to plant. then read some more grow guides and reread some more. then wait for march 21.

    so how does my plan sound so far? any advice? i plan on telling my friends that gave me seeds that it didnt work out and ill grow at a later time. then surprise them with some buds that i got a good hookup on haha.

    well tell me what you think thanks!
     
  2. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,601
    Likes Received:
    2
    Well congratulations and welcome to the club.
    I always enjoy it when someone deciedes not to continue paying outrageous price for killer bud and instead will try growing their own for a few bux per oz.
    Do you plan to have a partner?
    If so it's gotta be either your very best friend or someone who's level-headed, honest and smart.
    2 people can easily grow twice as much pot as 1 person.
    And a grow partner is good because it makes the trips out to your gardens more enjoyable.
    I'm very happy that you read my guerilla grow guide.
     
  3. Mr Fancy Pants

    Mr Fancy Pants Member

    Messages:
    194
    Likes Received:
    0
    I dont think im going to ahve a partner, but that could change. the people that i would trust to grow with me arnt the kind of people that would want to go on hour long hikes to dig holes even for a couple bux per ounce weed. So i think i might be growing solo lol. But like i said things might change. And the people that would want to go on a hike and do that are to sketchy to take. so i would rather be safe than sorry and not have a partner yet. Heck i can trust myself i wont rat myself out haha.
    I think its going to be a pleasant experience. ive actualy had this strong urge for the past couple years to just leave everything i have and live in the mountains and grow weed, but i havent convinced myself quite yet. so until then ill guirella grow.
    The only bad part is that i live in a desert. The mountains nearby have some water but not that much. So i may have to haul the water from my house. If this is the case i might limit my grow to a couple more plants than i want keeping in consideration that some of them will turn out to be males.
    I would much rather be growing in california lol. Also i used to go around monitoring streams with my grandpa in utah so when im more experience i know of alot of streams that not many people know about so i may try a guirella grow up there.

    ha ive been rambling on now lol but i am planning this carefully because if im going to do it i want to be somewhat successful. hopefully with the help of your guirella growing guide and other grow books information i will be very successful.

    till later time
    peace love and marijuana
    -Mr Fancy Pants
     
  4. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,601
    Likes Received:
    2
    Desert growing eh? Hmmm....

    I've never grown in the desert but I've grown in hot, arid climes before. Here are some suggestions that may help.
    Pot can take lots of sun, except in temp's over 100F pot goes dormant. It won't grow when the temp is higher than 100. High temps won't kill it, but growth will be retarded.
    Another prob. is moisture. Desert grows require LOTS of water.
    You can find these water crystal things at large plant nurseries you can add to the potting soil. Vermiculite also works tho not as good, but I suggest adding some of this to your potting soil so that the vermiculite composes about 15% of the potting soil.
    I recommend geting some pulp pots, planters made of recycled cardboard (you might have to special order these from a nursery, et the largest you can afford but at least 18" x 18".
    Dig a hole in the ground big enough so you can sink these planters into the ground, so that the plants will be at ground level. The planters will keep the water from being absorbed by the surrounding soil.
    It would be sweet if you could plant a few hundred feet from a natural water source. Because a 6' tall plant in full veg, or starting to flower can drink up to a gallon of water every 2 days.

    And water weighs 8.5 lbs/gal. 10 plants would require 85 lbs. of water, a lot to carry from home (basically impossible to carry in by foot in 1 trip).

    I hope you have a car. If I were you I'd pick a spot at least a 1 hr's drive from the city, at least an hour's hike from the nearest road...more would be better.
     
  5. Mr Fancy Pants

    Mr Fancy Pants Member

    Messages:
    194
    Likes Received:
    0
    thank you very much for that information.

    The city i live i is very much a desert. And alot of the surrounding mountains are deserts, but there is a mountain which is a hour drive away from the city (whcih you said i should find in yoru above post) and it gets a good amount of snow on it during winter. nothing super heavy most of it will be melted probably by mid to late spring.

    But it does not get close to 100 degrees there during the summer. this for me sounds most ideal. Ive been hiking there before and ive never seen any flowing water anywhere but that doesnt mean its not there.

    If i could find one i would mind having a couple grow spots near it along it in difference places. But i still need to go there and get trail maps. I still have a good amount of time for planning. but i decided to plan my first guirella grow as good as i can. So the sooner i can get the trail maps the better lol.

    Good day,

    Mr Fancy Pants
     
  6. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,601
    Likes Received:
    2
    When you take your hike(s):

    Be super-aware of signs of humans.
    The worst: dirt bike/atc tracks, Rippers aren't stupid and if they can get a few miles in on motorized equip., they will do so THEN start looking around.
    Also you can tell how much use a trail gets simply by it's appearence. If the trail is wide and barren = heavily used. Narrow with patches of grass = less used.
    And you have to be even more aware when you venture off-trail to look for the actual garden site.
    Look for the obvious sign--cig butts, cans and other trash.
    But also check out how high up branches are broken. Animals don't break branches human head high. I once bypassed an area because I saw a lot of trails in the area.
    A few years later, now with additional knowledge, I rechecked and found out the paths were made and used by deer, not people.
    Somewhere in my Guerilla guide is a mention of how to use coins or a compass as a way of detecting if someone frequents a prospective growsite.
     
  7. Mr Fancy Pants

    Mr Fancy Pants Member

    Messages:
    194
    Likes Received:
    0
    very good advice. i was thinking also along with the coin thing i have some old wallets i dont use anymore. i could put them to look like they fell out of someones pocket. then checkthem out and see if people have moved them or if they are completly gone.

    I do know more than the average person about mountains and stuff so i think that will be helpful. i was a boyscout lol. Plus ive worked the past 3 years during the summer in the mountains taking water samples from streams a springs and creeks lol to bad it wasnt here i was working or i would know many good places for guirella growing. maybe another year when im done with school i do that.

    Ive been reading grow books that are online. i cant really get any of them because i have an anti drug mom because her brother was a major drug addict therefore "all drugs are bad" haha do you know of any good ones that are online? Also my step dads mom was one of the people back east who started protesting marijuana back in the 60s and 70s and still today but she was more famous in the 60s so im being extra careful that is why im doing guirella growing.
    And i dont think my mom will be suspicious of my going oh hikes all the time because im always telling her i want to go on a hike. so yea i think i have this pretty well planned out so far
     
  8. Mr Fancy Pants

    Mr Fancy Pants Member

    Messages:
    194
    Likes Received:
    0
    About watering i found this on a website

    To water cheaply and effectively, cut a 3/16th hole in the bottom of a 5-gallon bucket. Mix an inexpensive all purpose water-soluble fertilizer with 5-gallons of water in the bucket and put the hole by the stem of the plant. Growing like this, only with 4 - 6 buckets of water will last all summer. Water with one bucket every 10 days during hot weather. Watering with this regimen, the plants will grow as well as if they had lots of water.

    If plants receive no water, a small bud grows on top of plant. A 5 foot tall plant may produce from 1 - 6 ounces of smokable bud. This same plant, given just a little water, will grow much better and produce more high quality smoke.

    Grow a plant that takes 20 – 40 gallons of supplemental water per growing season, or grow a plant that gets an infinite amount of water and achieve very near the same weight at harvest.

    Do you think this will work? thank you so much Ranger. Im glad your taking time to help me.
     
  9. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,601
    Likes Received:
    2
    I can see a few problems with the method cited.
    -It doesn't really cut the total amt. of water you have to transport in. Less trips but carrying more water each time. And remember 5 gal's water weighs 50 lbs.
    -Marijuana goes best when the soil dries out slightly between waterings. When the soil is constantly saturated, growth is slow.
    -Buckets stand out. Someone might glance in the direction of your plants. If they're mixed in with other green plants they might not be noticable, but if a bucket is there it will be an instant alert to a potential thief.
    If you use buckets, camo them with brown & green spray paint.
     
  10. Mr Fancy Pants

    Mr Fancy Pants Member

    Messages:
    194
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yea i might try the bucket technique althought not the most effective. I see it would be good for me right now since i have school. once i get out of school around the beginning of hune i would stop watering it with that method and start watering it normally. Also i got to thinking and maybe i can camoflouge the bucket the way one of your freinds camoed his plant. get chicken wire and make a dome over the bucket and add alot of garlin to it and berries and flowers so it looks like a bush. this is just an idea for camoing it.

    It may not give me as good of yield as if i were watering it normally but im not looking for HUGE amounts of weed. just enought to get me till next grow and some to hook friends up. So for me personally i think that bucket method might work best until the school year is over.

    thanks again for all your help
     
  11. PaperCutx

    PaperCutx Member

    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    0
    how often will i need to water my plants? i have basically no previous knowledge on outdoor grows, though i wish highly to obtain it. i am trying to find rangers outdoor guerilla grow guide for some help with this. i have a thread going right here if anyone has anything helpful. thanks http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202054
     
  12. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,601
    Likes Received:
    2
    How often you have to water, and how much, depends on

    -How big the plant is
    -the potting soil
    -the humidity

    A 6' tall plant in full veg planted in soil with poor water retention properties in a dry climate will require a gallon or more 3 times/week.
    A seedling in quality potting soil in a humid climate can go up to a week with only a quart/water.
    Experience indicates how much you need how often.
    When they're small, pour a qt. of water in the soil and check back every few days at first. When you visit sticj your finger all the way into the soil. Wait until your fingertip is either dry or almost dry before you add any more.
    Generally, it's better to use too much than too little water at first, but only a few times (roots don't grow in saturated soil).
     
  13. PaperCutx

    PaperCutx Member

    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    0
    now would it be possible to just take, say a gallon container, put a drip nozzle on it and let it drip next to the plants? if this would work i would put 2 gallons per plant, and come back every tuesday or something random like that so i could give them another gallon and also refill the drip system again.
     
  14. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,601
    Likes Received:
    2
    Sure it's possible.

    BUT
    -It doesn't cut the amt. of water you need to transport to the plants. Fewer trips maybe, same total amt. of water.
    And keep in mind water weighs 8.5 lbs/gal.
    -You would lose some of that stored water to evaporation.
    -The roots of a MJ plant like to dry out slightly between waterings. I have a friend who had a drip system on some of his plants and asked me why they weren't growing as fast as the ones he watered by hand. I had him re-set the timer on the drip system to allow the soil to dry out a bit between waterings.
     
  15. coyote1313

    coyote1313 Member

    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    well dude LA co. is at least as hot as eastern mindo co.
    here you cant Carry enough water to keep a plant alive.
    here you need at least 5 to10gal. per day per plant ( from July 1 to sept, 30)
    you better find a dry creek bed and dig yourself a spring box.
    use micro emitters or under ground drip line
    dig deep holes with plenty of vermick.
    be prepared to walk your water lines daily because every rodent for a mile around will be attacking them. As the temp. cracks 100 they will be going crazy for moisture.


    * the estimate of 5 to 10 gal. per day depends on the size of your plant and how much direct sun light. figure at least 1 gal. per foot per day
     
  16. coyote1313

    coyote1313 Member

    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    ranger is right about the roots liking a dry period but on the other hand, considering the arid aria you propose growing in I would be aware of heat shock. when its 110 out and your plants are respirating like crazy they need a source of moisture to draw on. some times it only takes a hour or two for them to go into heat shock.
    you will need to become well acquainted with B1
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice