Is it a really bad idea to try acid as your first drug?

She'd really do that?

 

well..cant say for sure..but
2 weeks ago her goal in life was dying young livin fast being a super junky rockstar
& ivin the drug crazed lifestyle

so.. today shes certainly lil better but that was just 2 weeks ago
& this is why it pisses me off when ppl just say yea go ahead & try it...without knowing 1 thing about the person & if theyre ready for it

shes still never got high off weed, i think she really should try weed first cause she ..at least 2 weeks ago..was the type to try anything..even severely endanger her life..just to get back at dea dad

 

Well, if that's the case I don't advise her to take anything at her age. In my opinion she should keep her head down and study. Many people will tell you this, but don't fuck your school years up like I did; you WILL regret it.

You have all the time in the world after school to do what the fuck you want. Take your time in life, because you only have one; there's no need to rush it.

 

We're doing it. We talked at school today and we definitely are. Dk is going to tell us exactly what to do and how much to take. He knows. He's a major stoner and the school dealer and he happens to be a very nice person too. He's a friend of all of ours.

 

How can LSD screw your school life up? Anyway, I'm thinking of buying 2 tabs, or blotters, w/e there called, my friends are also gunna get some too, we will each trip at different times though, and 'sit' each other. I'll take half a tab for my first time, then if I go ok, depending on what my trip was like, the next time i'll take 1 or one and a half, this sound good? How much would I actually need to take to get visuals? The tolerance disspears after a few days doesnt it? Woodstock, can't wait to see what your first time is like. I won't be getting mine for a while...

 

Probably a good idea it sounds funny to say it, but one thing that really creeps me out when I'm tripping, is seeing other people tripping more than once, tripping around a load of other tripping people, I came to the conclusion that we're all a bunch of nutcases, quite literally

Could be some truth in that y'know..

 

What can stop a trip, say I start having a really bad trip is there something I can take to end the trip? But damn I am so keen to try this, The thing i'm annoyed about is that, I'll start of with a low dose, not trip out much, and have wasted my money, and have to buy more to get visuals, but w/e, its better than taking too much and tripping out real bad. Also, should I take half, wait like 2 hours, see what it's like, if I'm ok, take the other half?

 

i duno, if u r gona be wreckless with drugs or r likely to do so than theres nothing better than lsd to get u started. phychedlics will give perspective and they can invoke very powerful emotions and intesify feelings n such. maybe even produce a blissful state or a horible one. either way theyd all be great lessons. for one itll show u how powerful drugs can be n why to respect n be cautious with them. as long as u dont have to learn that oding on cocaine or herion its all good. beter dive into physicaly safe drugs like certain phychedlics than the hardcore drugs that can kill u or leave u with brain damage, suzuirs, and the like. .. lsd? i duno i never had it but from what i read and my experiences with shrooms n other phsydelics, whats the worse thing that can hapen? u wont have a heart atack,get a brain hemorage goin, or die. so say i drama it up,fill life up with some memories even if theyre weird,bad,offbasline,strange or terible or blisful or watever else. heck take 2 hits even. even 7 or 8, ive read if ur having a bad trip on lsd u can take more untill u reach a blisful platue. heres the hand book for theraputic use of lsd. http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/guides/handbook_lsd25.shtml
look over it since u've waited so long to take it, might as well gain some insights, they even have questions that u survey n then test out the theraputic value of ur experience.... most importantly have a safe setting where u cant get hassled or disturbed n were ur set/mind would feel easy before, during, n after the experience... thinking back, i think that i wouldnt regret taking lsd when i was 15 had i had the chance. proly woulda taken it had i been able to aquire it. theres proly nothing like taking lsd at yearly intervals 15 18 20 n so on. maybe even more than that, i duno. its proly not as powerful, insighfull, meaning, n positivly benifiting if taken 2 much. as thatd proly just get recreational, leaving lil time to change for the beter n incorporate the trips into ur daily life in a positve way. oh and dad being the dea agent is a plus, maybe afterward u can get him to take it too or talk to him while ur on it or something along the line.

 

stand- u can take thorazine to terminate an lsd trip. though im not sure we're u can get that stuff,maybe the ER room? i duno, do some research i guess. also u can just take 5 6 more hits n see where that takes u. they say in all the right places is where...

 

You're right in a sense. Take enough acid and you lose all concept of what it is to be scared, what it is to fear anything, but that sort of trip for a first time is way too intense, imo.

Also, coming down from the "blisful plateau", can be just as scary as getting there, if not far scarier. Not an ideal solution, especially not for a first trip.

 

Woodstock, I think you should wait till you've smoked at LEAST a month. Being stoned may be nothing at all like tripping, but it'll still give you a gradual introduction into altered mind states. But, I guess since you're so adamant about doing it I won't change your mind. Still, have a good time and be safe. Don't forget to come back here to tell us how it went.

 

The thing with drugs, especially LSD, is that you can't tell someone how much a 'safe' dose is. It effects different people in different ways. And being a 'major stoner' isn't a reason for someone to know anything about LSD. A stoner is just someone who smokes alot of pot.

And yet you still havn't answered my question:

What do you expect to gain from doing LSD?

 

yes yes yes u gotta answer that question what do u hape to gain
if you dont answer that question u wont gain u will lose

but ok to these stupid fools telling her to take more if shes on a bad trip (noticing none of em ever trippred b4) thats a wonderful way to end a trip in a hospitol

and the best way to end a trip is not thorzine its a large dose of vitamin b complex & vitamin c
but i cant tell uhow large a dose

as for stands question..how can ut screw up your school life? u never heard turn on tune in drop out?
it can alter your perceptions
change how you see the world
and leave u disatisfied with the everyday normal activities like school
and change your thinking patterns as well..

woodstock...just smoke some pot (if u can hear me..u seem to not be listening much lately)

and answer the only sensible question asked here
what do u hope to gain from the experience

 

b and c vitamins, i duno that sounds like a placebo. have u tried that before?

 

thats whats always used
b complex & c will end a bad trip

the others ive heard suggested are all tranqualizers that dont end the trip just calm you down
the vitamins will actualy mellow or completely end the trip
besudes..if someones freaking out on drugs..why would u give em more drugs?

have i tried it no..i stopped tripping long ago & only had 1 bad trip..& was alone at the time ..
but i've seen it used many times
even on ppl tripping heavily on crystal wash & it works very well

 

Yeah, that's true.

I assume it levels out the PH content...I don't know?

But yes, it is true. Besides, even if it is a placebo effect, does it matter? Either way you come down off it.

 

I've heard mixed reports about Vitamin C, at least when used in small amounts. Some people use it for a synergistic effect, but most people say it gets rid of the jitteriness of your trip and maybe lessens its intensity by a small, barely noticeable amount.

 

I'd say stick with Mary Jane a while before you visit Lucy in the sky with diamonds. This will get her a better understanding on what drugs feel like. Acid is much different than it though, I just think it would help alot.

 

yeah looking over it, ur right tranqulizers r a bad idea. valium is a better idea than thorazine or libruim but still. how do b n c vitamins stop it though? and does that work with shrooms too? ph content or ?

 

Honestly I think the notion that he will need certain vitamins and tranqs to save himself from a trip is blowing things out of proportions. He is only planning on taking a half to one hit, and if he takes the right precautions he will be just fine.