The Atheist Thread

Yeah thats right! Remember all those bible bashing threads that plagued RT over the last 2 years? Well this is the Atheist Thread

I believe our purpose in life is to enjoy it. That means eating good food, having forefilling relationships and getting rich. Religion breeds conflict and disillusion IMO. I'm not attacking a particular religion... I'm talking about them all.

If you have a religious belief then go ahead and post your argument. Which of the 100+ gods do you believe in that 'exist' today?

 

I did not vote, because none of the choices fit my ideology.

I believe in God and have faith in God, but I am not gonna kiss his/her ass to get to heaven. I am gonna live how I wanna live and hope I can get to heaven for just being good to people and doing what's right.

What I mean when I say "i'm not gonna kiss God's ass" is that I don't do the right thing because I am told to by the bible, but I do the right thing simply because it's the right thing to do.

 

Poll choice 2

Poll choice 3...

Which God do you believe in exactly?

 

Agnostic here... believe in something, something that's in the end unknowable - we can guess and postulate all we want, but we'll never totally comprehend that force. And so no religion is truly wrong, just facets of that force... but nor are they truly right

 

I am a semi-christian, which means I have christian values and beliefs, but I don't put ALL of my faith in God. I believe it is up to us to make life what it can be.

I also question God's reasons for putting us here. Why would he create us? We do nothing for him. We are nothing more than a giant ant-farm or soap opera. He just watches us for his entertainment.

 

I think your wrong... religion is a man made answer to the unanswerable. Only science can eventually give true answers to the beginning of Earth's existance. Religious text was written when people thought the world was flat. Atheists are more opened minded than those that follow ancient, religious text. Theres nothing wrong with a person spending their life praying to a manufactured God in hope that they will secure their place in a manufactured heaven.. whatever rocks their boat.

Surely a state of heaven should be found before ones death. If someone finds heaven by spending their lives worshipping a high power then who am i to judge? What I can't understand is how a rational human being can think that the world was created by an intellegent God (with moral consciousness) and not through millions of years of natural chaos (ok my brain is hurting)

 

i'm right along with you topnotch

 

Why would this not be possible?

 

This thread is likely to turn into a circular logic nightmare...I hate arguing.

Y'all go on and have fun without me. I'll be a voyeur.

 

Here is a question for you regarding your reply.. .How could planet Earth be 'created' by a God that was manifested by a small group of humans? Humans do not truely know the chemical composition of our neighbouring planets and moons, let alone why the fuck it exists. We wouldn't even know that those things existed if it wasn't for modern day technology.

Could an ant know that it is walking over a Nike trainer? Nope.. It would if it found christianity or the koran

 

You made the statement. You said:

"What I can't understand is how a rational human being can think that the world was created by an intellegent God (with moral consciousness) and not through millions of years of natural chaos (ok my brain is hurting) "

I was just wondering what your reasoning for this was. Why is this not possible?

 

Ohhhhhhhhhhh fuck man, thanks, I needed a good laugh like that today

Jesus... you've never met up with one of those hardcore atheists who attack anyone who believes in anything spiritual, let alone into organized religion? I grew up with one of those... atheists are more open minded MY ASS.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being an atheist (whether or not they think I'm "WRONG" for having my own set of spiritual beliefs), but in no way does that indicate that they're more "openminded" because they rely on hardcore science to prove anything.

And if this thread is going ot consist of you saying shit like "I think your wrong" for someone expressing their spiritual beliefs, it's going to turn into a shit parade, I'm just gonna warn you 'bout that now.

 

I claim to be God and therefore believe in myself.

 

I made that statement because a God with moral consciousness would need a brain to exist.. That means that it would have to be human to have moral values and not be an entity that created every element. God only exists in the minds of people. When you look at the diversity in space.. do you really believe that it was created by a human God? Adam and Eve? Oceans turning to blood? Jesus waking from the dead and turning his flesh into bread and wine? What bites me is that 99% of the human population swears blind that fables similar to these actually happened.

 

I re-read your initial first post and you made absolute sense. My reply was not aimed at you and fuelled by cold beer. Do you forgive me?

 

So, it is not possible because God is imaginary, He doesn't exist. You believe that for God to exist, he would need a brain. So, do you believe that the physical is all there is or is there a spiritual realm as well? How would you explain the human mind? I think a distinction should be made between the brain and the mind.

 

You lost me at 'spirtual'... A distinction between the mind and the brain? What could I suggest after all these cold brewskies? The brain is one of your organs, the mind is you.

 

Sorry, I wasn't very concise. But I think you are very perceptive in saying that the brain is an organ and the mind is you. What I was getting at is that God is intelligent and God can create. He has a mind.

 

You state that 'God' has a mind. A mind thinks. The only perception of thinking is from a brain which is an organ/orgainism. For an organism to evolve to what we see today came from IIRC, single celled organisms reacting to the elements around them. Taking nutrients to sustain itself. Procreating to ensure its survival as a 'race' and evolving to combat other organisms in the food chain. I don't think we have evolved much from single celled life in the sea and we have no reason to do other wise. What is written in religious text goes against primal instinct. Going back to the beginning, there will always be a negative ion to react to the positive or visa vera... take Al-Qaeda for example in present times.

 

Without an immaterial aspect of our being, our mind, how do you explain free thought process? How do you explain choice?