Should we attack Korea?

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  1. Cromlech

    Cromlech Member

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    What is really sad is just how militarised N.Korea is. Sure, the U.S may spend the most money on defence, but the U.S can afford to. N.Korea on the other hand, spends more than it can really afford to on defence, to the detriment of it's people, who are starving.

    Hungry? Oh, sorry, Kimmy boy wants another huge parade/display of firepower to satisfy his ego. You will just have to starve. :mad:

    If N.Korea attacks S.Korea, I am all for the U.S coming to the aid of S.Korea, after all, S.Korea doesn't have the manpower to deal with N.Korea.

    There is no need to attack them just for this nuke test, however, that won't be good for anyone. Let China put their sanctions on N.Korea, they have the most influence.
     
  2. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    I agree we're not great when it comes to that, but when it comes to human rights and democracy in general, we're at least in the upper part of the scale, while North Korea is at deal. And the only reason N. Korea wants nukes is because it's the last thing they have to bring to the table. If I remember back in 1994 we offered to give them aid, and offered to build nuclear reactors that couldn't be used to make bombs, they agreed, then turned their back completly on it and kicked out UN inspectors

    The East German economy and that of Germany as a whole stalled for nearly a decade, "the sick man of Europe" expression, and it's cost the German government over $1 trillion in the effort on reunification, and with the collapse of the manufacturing sector in the East after reunification, with the unemployment there more then double in the west, many cite that has the reason as the success of far-right parties in elections in the past few years.
     
  3. poor_old_dad

    poor_old_dad Senior Member

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    Well, of course, there is no longer an "East Germany", but yeah... it's been tough and they still have problems. But now Germany is one of the world's most highly developed market economies. It is the world's third largest economy in USD exchange-rate terms, the fifth largest by purchasing power parity (PPP) and the largest economy in Europe. source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Germany

    But my main point is that they were reunited without a war. South Korea is now the 10th largest economy in the world. South Korea is also one of the world's most technologically advanced and digitally-connected countries. And a united Korea would, after recovering the reunification shock, would be a hugh economic world power. Ya know, maybe that's why it hasn't happened... HMmmmmmm... Do th US & Japan, the two largest economic powers, and the rapidly growing economies of China & Russia, really want the competition of a reunited Korea? Hadn't thought of that until just now... HMmmm ...

    Peace,
    poor_old_dad
     
  4. Art Delfo

    Art Delfo It is dark

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    can't we just let China deal with the problem?
     
  5. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Labour productivity is measured in terms of the value of goods produced/per person/per labour hour, and trust me, America has one of the highest of the world.

    Labour specialization isn't a bad thing. And you clearly have no idea what you're talking about - the American economy holds advantages in a shitload of industries.

    :rolleyes:. More likely, without American/British/Soviet policy towards them there never would have been an OPEC/cartel and oil would flow on a pure market system and actually be cheaper.

    You're trying to make an economic argument without a)any knowledge of the terms or b)any actual knowledge.

    Go to school a for a bit. Learn something.
     
  6. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    You're giving yourself way too much credit. You can hardly call America democratic when they've end more democracies and instituted more dictators than anybody since the Empire where the Sun never Sets.
     
  7. poor_old_dad

    poor_old_dad Senior Member

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    It would help us understand if you could list the democracies ended and list the dictators instituted.


    Peace,
    poor_old_dad
     
  8. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Lets see, you ousted Arbenz in Guatemala to be replaced by Carlos Castillo Armas' military junta.

    Does the name Jean-Bertrand Aristide ring a bell?

    There is a fair amount of evidence that the CIA was involved in the coup that replaced Allendes with Pinochet.

    Do you want more?
     
  9. poor_old_dad

    poor_old_dad Senior Member

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    Yes, of course I've heard of Castro's friends, Colonel Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán and Jean-Bertrand Aristide, and the Marxist Salvador Isabelino del Sagrado Corazón de Jesús Allende Gossens.

    While I put together my thoughts on your previous post...

    Yes, please.

    Peace,
    poor_old_dad
     
  10. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    NO. We have a very negative history in the eyes of the rest of the world. A large portion of that is a result of our foreign policy as it relates to war and global policing. We can not afford to screw the pooch again (Iraq).
     
  11. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Its my understanding that we installed J. B. Aristide in power. With the US Army.

    it was a warm-up nation building exercise, in Haiti, everyone said horray!

    But it set a precedent for bush's Iraq fantasy.

    He remained in power a long time and in the end, he was little diferent
    from Raoul Cedras, Duvalier or anybody else before him.


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  12. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    As I understood it the US put him back in power in exchange for economic concessions, and when he didn't meet these, there was a US-backed coup.
     
  13. Len2000

    Len2000 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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  14. spooner

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    This is a legitimate tangent - the question of whether or no the US should invade depends heavily on their (lack of) legitimacy.

    And thanks for your political insight.
     
  15. zodiacflower

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    ...my question is, if one of their bombs could destroy the earth, than why do they make so many when they only need one to destory us all?
     
  16. Kaiser 4 Sunflowers

    Kaiser 4 Sunflowers Banned

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    Haven't we done enough damage in the world.
     
  17. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    The US should bring its soldiers home from Korea.


    People are taking those soldiers for granted. Perhaps, left alone to the
    tender mercies of Kim jung Il, Koreans might take him more seriously.
    The perspective might allow a better assesment of where the real threat lies.

    It would also take away a bs excuse for bellicosity by Kim.
     
  18. MollyThe Hippy

    MollyThe Hippy get high school

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    i don't think the hippies should attack n. korea... our vw busses are not match for their tanks
     
  19. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Sure. I mean, gotta try new things in foreign policy right?

    For some reason that reminds me of Austin Powers.

    "Austin, the Cold War is over."

    "Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh? Eh comrades?"

    'Austin... we won.'

    'Oh, smashing groovy. Yay capatilism.'
     

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