Hmmm touchy subject, is it, should it be ? Is an opinion worth haveing, if you've seen or heard the press lately I get the impression it is quite emotive on both sides of opinion. Feeling myself sideing with the argument that it is impossible to have an inclusive society when sections of it deliberately display exclusivity. Just how I feel now, anyone think I should feel different, and perhaps a why ? Cheers
they have as much right to wear a veil as punks to do stick safety pins through their ears or goths have to wear crazy ass makeup. yeah so not all punks an not all goths do that, but we all have a right to wear what we want on whatever basis, culture, religion, trend. its ridiculous to tell an ancient old religion to change their dress because people who dont understand it dont like it. bah
if the best thing jack straw has to concern himself with is what people decide to wear...... then it's time he quit politics and started doing fashion reviews in magaznines or some shit.... what's next? please remove your sunglasses and shave your beards?
I think Jack was right. He wasn't calling for a ban - he just stated a preference. To those who criticise him - have you ever been in the position of trying to communicate with a woman in a Burkha? Most likely not, as they're not inclined to talk to anyone they don't have to. When you do have to, talking to a piece of cloth is vey disconcerting. Facial expression is a big part of human communication. If they want to wear the veils it's up to them, but people who choose to disengage from society can't expect society to hear their voice.
well how would you feel about people walking around in nazi uniforms or wearing klu klux klan masks . the whole idea of islamic clothing is to be seperate and superior to non muslims if your a homosexual or a critic of islam who will be put to death when these masked people get in large enough numbers how can you look at these outfits any different from a nazi uniform or klu klux klan hood http://www.faithfreedom.org/Announcement/MuslimGuidelines.htm
I see no problem with people walking around in Nazi uniforms or KKK masks. I may find it offensive or distasteful, I may even choose to express my distaste like Jack Straw did. But it's certainly not my place to decide what people can and can't wear in public.
well we have laws that stop people walking around naked personally I wouldnt mind people walking around naked . so why not have laws to stop people wearing uniforms you dont like
yeah, get rid of the school uniform... rspca uniform....the salvation army and christian dog collar gettup will have to go of course.... People have a right to wear what they want, and interact with who they want (unless of course they are suspect of breaking the law/in the process of breaking the law, then they can be forced to reveal their identity).... wether it fits in to some peoples preconcieved ideas of british "society" or not. Society is constantly evolving, as it should, unless you live in some strange little village that has remained static for the last thousand years.To me "British society" is wonderfully multicultural and diverse, i see that every time i walk down the high street.... besides law, order and public safety, i see no reason why we should trust whitehall to shape it..... society is dictated by the people, to suit the lifestyle of those people best (hopefully)
actually if you allowed total freedom of dress the naked people especially the unattractive naked might drive away the peoples in veils or the other way round
well a couple of things this particular uniform intends getting rid of diversity and is only in favour of the right to wear what it likes, till they have the power to make you wear what they like or allah likes . it is a symbol of a totalitarian political system
Part of having the right to wear whatever you like is that you must allow others to wear whatever they like. Part of having the freedom to think whatever you like is that you must allow others to have opinions which differ from yours. One thing that's interesting about this subject is that women in Islamic countries are often very badly repressed, and that this clothing could be seen as a very visible symbol of that repression. Generally muslim women are far less repressed outside of Islamic theocracies, and probably most of those who wear veils in this country do so as part of a cultural tradition without much thought to its symbolism. It's still a sticky area because of what it represents, but as long as it is a free choice, who are we to judge?
I can't think of a single culture or sub-culture in our society that doesn't want to change things to suit themselves and their lifestyles better...it's always been that way, and as long as we live in a country that respects our rights as individuals, it probably always will be..... everyone wants to live in an environment that suits their lifestyle best Fortunately we live in a country that allows no one to be forced to wear a bhurka or veil, it's personal choice ....... i don't see how it would improve anything by dictating that people should be forced to remove them.
