Scientology is sick sick sick, im not saying the people them selves are sick, but the actions of the church on the whole are disgusting. They will do everything they can to destroy innocent lives, simply for the act of dissagrement. They will rip your whole life apart, and i only feel free to say this as i have nothing they can take from me. They dig up as much dirt as possible, and what they cant find they make up. Everyone should be aware of their lies as ignorence can only hurt the uninformed.
Check out the book "Sex and Rockets" by John Carter. It is a biography of Jack Parsons, a pioneer of early American rocket propulsion of a co-founder of Nasa's, Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Parson's was the number 2 man in the Alester Crowly's O.T.O., in the US. L.Ron Hubbard was heavily involved with this group a Parson's even rented a room to him in his house. Hubbard later stole Parson's girlfriend and a boat. I think L.Ron learn most of his teachings from his group, note that this group was also notorious for drug fueled rituals and magic practices. Lots more dirt of Hubbard in the book.
quick question. i think we all have heard about that episode from southpark that makes fun of scientology. it goes over what scientologists beleive. just curious, is that actually what they beleive? lol.
It's true that Aleister Crowley was one of the earliest members of Ordo Templi Orientis, but was long gone by the time these people joined. O.T.O is a masonic type organization that could be labelled gnostic, and yes, it has got a lot to do with magic, but please - just because Crowley was indulging in all sorts of drugs doesn't mean that all O.T.O members do drugs. There are big differences between the teachings of O.T.O / Thelema and Scientology. Not everything you read is truth. Now, please explain your dislike of Scientology. I have no access to this book that was mentioned but am rather interested in everyones opinion on scientology.
The main overall evil of Scientology is that it is rather cheesy. Many other science fiction writers could have made up a much better religion. Now, if they actually had some super secret advanced technologies and could get me a flying saucer for personal use, I would join in a minute. The book I mentioned above is actually very well documented and detailled, referenced and cross-referrenced to public records, court documents, FBI files,etc. Jack Parsons' and his friendship with Hubbard is not denied by official Scientology public relations statements, it is just downplayed. The core of Scientology's mental teachings is basically the same as what Hubbard learned from Parsons' and the OTO, which the OTO got from other older religions.
Thanks for telling me a bit more about your views on this. I know a bit about Thelema/O.T.O but nothing of Scientology. so it's interesting to know what the connection is. The older religions O.T.O is based on; I take it you are referring to the Kabbalah?
Scientology also caters to the rich followers. For instance, when Tom Cruise goes on a retreat, the regular non-rich followers have to do all sorts of crazy stuff to carry out his every whim. Followers are also told that they need to give large amounts of money to attain certain levels in Scientology. The OTO is philoshopically based on a mixture of several different older teachings. Ranging from parts of eastern mysticism to pagan mystery schools and lots of stuff inbetween. This link also includes some information relating to Charles Manson's relationship to scientology- http://www.factnet.org/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=3&post=141010
Just wanted to include this link, it is supposed to be the largest internet archive of documents related to the evils (dirt on) of Scientology. http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/dianetics.html Apparently scientology even tried to have this site shutdown.
Here is a great presentation on the real evils of $cientology, including several deaths. http://www.theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/ Anyone considering scientology should watch this. Here is a link to a tribe dedicated to the dislike of scientology. http://scientology.tribe.net/ Among the countries that do not consider Scientology a religion are Belgium, France, Germany, Great Britain, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, and Spain, as well as Israel and Mexico." - Quoted from official German Embassy Web site
The more you read about them, how enormous an organization it actually is.. How much they profit, & own..The creepier it gets. It's great fodder for horror. I have a friend who is just now being courted by them. I'm worried about him, & his family. Here's a copy of an article from time magazine... http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html http://www.factnet.org/ScientologyInternationalNews.html :leaving:
from http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/scientology BAWAHOUHAAAAA BWAAAA HAHAHAHAHA HAAAAAAAR H oH OUHA WAH OOOH HAWAAAARRWAHAA HA HA HA HAAAAR !!! MAAAAAha ha ha hah ha ha ha ha ha ha WOOOOOHAHAHA !! L ROn Hubbard is a clown !
scientology is up there with mormon. it's ideas are retarded, i'd think anything with -scien in it should have atleast something to do with science. and, i can get more religious insight from the video game prey, which makes 100 times more sense. basically, it says that aliens planted mankind like a plant, and waited til it was at it's peak and harvested it. for all we know, that could be true. ofcourse i'm not seriously suggesting this idea. but it's sure as hell alot of a better idea than scientology.
I have no respect for Scientology after L. Ron Hubbard once referred to Jesus Christ as a hot-tempered paedophile. Also, it's a religion that is riding on the coat-tails of the rich and famous in order to survive.
I wached that Panorama programme about it. The way they conducted themselves. Stalking. Lying. Shouting. Hypocrisy. I just can't respect them anymore. My heart goes out to those who have suffered.
