Why is it so much easier for woman to be gay?

I mean people seem so much more accepting of lesbians than gay guys in my area since the guys don't mind and the girls don't either, but it is seriously frustrating I hate this whole "you must be macho" crap that is placed on men. I am macho myself but just the fact that I am gay makes me have a hard time making friends with the same sex and that is frustrating since before I came out I was very friendly with lots of people of the same sex.

 

Well, I think there's a few reasons. If a woman is more butch, then it is really as acceptable... but there are religions that for some reason say it is okay for women and not for men. So I'd say that has something to do with it... just a mass of opinions spread over a long period of time, to the point where they are unfounded and just beliefs that people have because of conditioning.

Another thing, I think is because people think that if a man is gay, he is less of a man, that makes him more of a woman... and women are always the lesser of the two... it's okay for women to be womanly, they're not to be feared... but why would a man want to be less of a man... etc.

Of course these views are blind... but I think that is why people think like that.

 

is it?
My gay best friend has mad issues I never would have expected. And sometimes, she takes it out on me!!!!! Like I have control or something.

 

Everywhere I have ever lived , gay ladies have been accepted better than gay guys, and Im really not sure why...other than males seem to be attracted to the whole idea of two chicks together...and pissed when two guys are a COUPLE !!!

 

really? i thought it was the other way round. :s
here gay guys are accepted more than gay women.
weird.

 

You said it,Erzebet...most guys love seeing two women together...

Random bar scenerio:

Man: -says to beautiful woman- "Hey baby you're like a parking ticket,cos you've got FINE written all over you"

Girl: -angry- "Why don't you tell my girlfriend that, jerk?"

Man: "That's really hot! Can I join?"

Girl: "No! We're gay!"

Man: "Can I watch?"

Girl: "NO! PISS OFF!"

****
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Gah...and most heterosexual men are too into themselves and have this idea that they are masculine, and seeing a man with another man threatens his sexuality and his masculinity...As far as homophobic women go, some women are jealous of them, because they hold a belief that all the good men are gay...That's my guess, everyone else is probably just really conservative...I don't know.

 

you don't half make a lot of sweeping statements and generalistions about groups of people
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That's not what I'm doing...I'm just guessing...I'm not saying that all of my guesses are a matter-of-fact, because they are not. I am just speaking from what I have experienced with people, and what people I know have experienced.

I tend to ponder alot of things alot...not everything I say reflects my true opinion, because I don't have one. I often have different thoughts and views on one thing alone...rather than one cemented idea. Sure, I contradict myself all the time. But that's just who I am.

I'm not making generalizations on anyone. I'm not making attacks on anyone's character. I'm not criticizing anyone. And that goes for all of my posts, unless I state clearly otherwise.

You're really taking alot of my posts far too seriously...

 

im straight, and i hate lesbians.. but i have gay friends
i think im confused

 

Why the fuck would you hate lesbians?

 

this is a serious forum.
and I have said this too someone else. if I went to work and said 'bisexual women are incapable of having an emotional attachment with other women and someone made a compliant about me, me saying 'i wasn't being serious or I was just joking'
wouldn't hold water at all.
This is a free speech forum, so your entitled to say what you did about bisexuals, however it was still a generlisation, wether you want to take responsiblity for that or not, as was the 'all straight men' statement.

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Sorry, but there is a huge difference between openly pondering something than making a serious generalization. I never said that bisexual women are incapable of having emotional attachment with other women! I consider myself to be bisexual, and I have experienced emotional attachment as well as sexual attractions to BOTH sexes. And I didn't say ALL straight men,either. I said 'most'. You are exagerating, and putting words in my mouth. I clearly stated that I was just guessing, even before you came along and said that I was making a 'sweeping generalization'. I'm not accusing straight men as a whole to be mindless narcissistic jerks. I'm not accusing bisexual women as a whole to have an inability to experience emotional attachment with another women. And if I were REALLY making generalizations as you are accusing me of, I would definetely take responsibility for it, and I would apologize. But I know that in reality, I'm not, so no responsibility taken. Think what you want,though. Ignorance is bliss...

 

so lets be clear here, your saying the above quote is not a sweeping statement?
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If I were trying to actually make a sweeping statement, I would be far more blunt and obvious. Note that at the end of that particular post I said "I am just guessing, I don't know..." And I said MOST heterosexual men...not ALL. If I were trying to make attacks on the entire race of heterosexual men, it would go a little more like this...

"All heterosexual men are narcissistic jerks who enjoy demeaning women and experience extreme discomfort in seeing a man with another man, as it would threaten their precious masculinity in which they all value so greatly. There is not a single straight man out there who thinks or acts otherwise, as all heterosexual men are macho freak homophobes. And I really do mean ALL of them. I am absolutely positive about this. I have never even heard of a non homophobic non facist straight guy. Never in my life!"

Again, what I meant by most, was, that most of the heterosexual men that I have met are like what I described. Most of the ones that I have met are facist homophobic jerks. And I was simply guessing that a large number of other straight men out there in the world have a possiblity of being the same way...

You really must enjoy arguing. I'd have to say, it's not my thing.

 

fine, I won't argue with you again and you can just write me off as over reacting, you may want to look at your posts however if other people say they find you offensive
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I think the reason is that more is expected from men. They are supposed to be the pillars of society and it's defenders. Being manly is associated with being strong, firm and unwavering. Now how can a gay guy live up to that if he is wishy washy and on his knees all the time sucking things...

 

sucking things?

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hahaha.......thank you Patrick....I needed the laugh....I happen to know lot of females who are sucking things too !!!

 

Anyways, it definently is true that guys have a harder time being gay because of other guys mostly , all the girls are supportive no matter your sexuality, most guys suck. I love guys who are straight and dont feel the need to follow that macho shit their so much fun to hang out with, guys who are so into "I must be macho" are so boring . I'm pretty masculine but that's the way i am so its not like I'm trying to change myself to fit the way people want me to be.

 

There is nothing easier about being gay for a woman as opposed to a man. The false belief is that only woman are accepted being gay but that couldn't be more wrong.