Prozac and Salvia ????? !!! ??

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by ScaredIdiot, Sep 28, 2006.

  1. ScaredIdiot

    ScaredIdiot Member

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    Hello.

    I've been very interested in trying Salvia for the past week or so, infact I have some that should be coming tomorrow.

    My problem is I have been taking 30mg of Flouxetine ( Prozac ) for about 3 years now. I know that it is a "ceretonin uptake inhibitor" , excuse the spelling, I am wondering if It will interact with the Salvia and either make me trip for too long, kill me , or produce a bad experience.

    One last question,

    To be honest I am very hesitant to smoke it, so I bought the weakest version, the plain leaf. I plan on just taking 1 hit of the leaf, holding it in, and blowing it out. I've heard of people explain the "6 stages of salvia trips" I plan on only going to stage 3. Will 1 hit produce this stage, what do you think?

    I used to be an extremely heavy pot smoker. It's been two years since i've smoked. I quit for the same reason most heavy smokers do, the paranoia and fear and non enjoyability it produces after long use. Now every time I use it heavily, i'll lay in bed and roll around having thoughts of how my life sucks, how much of a loser I am, all of the bad things that have happened to me.

    So if you take that into perspective, would I make a safe Salvia user? I certainly don't want a bad trip where I see Demons and dead animals, hehe.

    Thanks for your concern, It's greatly Appreciated.

    :p
     
  2. ScaredIdiot

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    PS: I drink heavy on the weekends, and have a couple of beers a night during the week. I am very calm and caring when drunk. This might help.
     
  3. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    ummm from what u say iwould definately not try it..have u tried other psychodelivcs or anything before?

    icouldnt tell ya tho, havent tripped on anything in many years..but i hsaave had to babysit people who have had mental or emotionalproblems..been on meds for em & messed with psychodelics

    & some..never come back to functionality

    rule with any psychodelic..if your not 100% sure ya are stanble enough to handle it..dont riskit
    it can openyour mind yes..or make it snap..

    ever been with someone ya cared abut the momment theyre minds snapped?

    man i've done alotta lsd shhrooms whatever inthe day..but salvia is too freakin scary even if i did trip i'd never mess with it unless it was like in a cerimonial way
     
  4. ScaredIdiot

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    Thanks for your input. To clarify, the Prozac is taken for life long depression and anxiety, not necessarily being mentaly insane, if that was what you mean't.

    Your probably right thought, for someone who has anxiety and depression and on seritonin uptake inhibitors proabably shouldn't risk messing with Salvia. It's too bad thought because I bought the damn stuff.

    As far as only taking it to stage 3, I guess that is risky business as well? everyone reacts different I hear.

    Anyone else have input?
     
  5. ScaredIdiot

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    No I've never tried any psychodelics before.
     
  6. trailerparkboy

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    Do it, you'll be fine. But don't expect to have too much luck off of plain leaves, although for some people it will work.
     
  7. soaringeagle

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    umm trailerparkboy
    how doyou know he'll be fine?
    how old are ya anyways?

    its that oh doit you'll be fine attitude that makes ppltry shit that kills em..
    life long anxiety & massive halucinations? umm nope bad combo..seriusly bad combo

    wasnt sayin ya had insanitybtw bro..lol iknew that
    just sayin ya gotta know your mind b4 u mess with psychodelics

    if hes evcver to try psychodelics salvia is not the 1 totry 1st

    id suggest peyote or shrooms..but in a very controlled environment where 1 theres alotta ppl experienced with them..2 herbaists that know how to end bad trips..3 nothin but good vibes

    serius lifelong anxiety can make everyday scary..add the unreal & ya got a mind turning to mush

    doit you'll be fine will put alotta your freinds in graves over the years..
    im guessin your 14?
    how much experience withthese things can u have that yoyr qualified to tell someone do it you'll be fine

    have you ever even met anyone whos mind snapped?
     
  8. ScaredIdiot

    ScaredIdiot Member

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    Haha!
    Your right Eagle.
    You seem like a very knowledgable Medicine Man of sort.
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    (Anxiety2) hulicination + depression(flouxetine) = wtf . I'm no chemist, but I'm not about to experiment on myself.


    I hear you talking a lot about mind snaps.
    A lot of people that have done a lot of LSD say Salvia is a much potent type of halucination.
    Not worth the risk for anyone who's recovering from Pot related anxiety, and let me tell you there is such a thing, epecially with how strong pot is now'a'days.

    Thank a bunch. I'll stick with booze
     
  9. ScaredIdiot

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    Well, I Tried it!!

    I can tell you I have not had any bad experiences with it. It is possible to just go to stage 1 2 and 3. The exact product i'm using is Iamshaman.com 's Salvia Divinorum: Oaxacan Leaf. Here's what I did.

    1st. Take a pinch of salvia, put it in pipe, two controlled long puffs, inhale, hold.

    Effect ( mellow but still scared, body high type feeling )

    2nd. Three large leaves, chewed and placed under tounge for 5 minutes.

    Effect ( Body high, very relaxed feeling, humerous )

    3rd. 3 large puffs from bowl.

    Effect (stronger body high, sense of confusion, slight visual seeing spots, perception of time increased, very relaxed )

    4th . 6 large leaves, chewed, and placed under tounge for 5-10 minutes.

    Effect ( same as 5th, a little groggy, tired, relaxed , slight visual )

    It seems that if you take it easy on the content level, starting very carefully with the Oaxacan dried leaf, it can provide a quick and pleasant body high.

    I've heard that salvia has a stronger effect each time you use it, so I'm carefull now when I chew it, Each time always sitting and in a safe place.

    I hope this clears up the confusion for everyone.
     
  10. trailerparkboy

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    my friend is on prozac and does 2c-X, e, coke, weed, ritalin, salvia (40X),Possibly other things and is totally fine. So I think this guy will be fine with smoking salvia
     
  11. trailerparkboy

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    oh and soaringeagle istheresomethingwrongwithyourkeyboardorwhat?
     
  12. dilatedpupils

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    I'm glad you did it. I take celexa and have since done salvia multiple times. Each time was a great expierence. Salvia usually leaves me with an anti-depressant felling for hours and sometimes days afterwards. I really believe it can benifit people with depression because i know a few of them myself including me. Of course its subjective though and to each his own. If its all good i suggest going for a breakthrough. With plain leaf you might have to take as MANY puffs as you can holding each in 20-30 seconds. No matter what happens its only a couple minutes and you can't OD off it so the only thing you have to fear is really fear.
     
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