near-death experiences?

What do you think about near death expereinces, I specifically send this too people who don't believe in an after life.

 

First-hand reporting by folks with head injuries, impaired blood flow to the head, and/or loaded up on pain killers might be just a tad suspect.

They can also be duplicated by stimulating certain parts of the brain.

 

yeah, i also read if you do ketamine you can have something like that, i think its just the brain being fucked up or something, im just curious to others opinions.

 

well i know, or was told, i flatlined once trying to give blood at a stab lab. not really much very interesting to tell about it. white light yes. tunnels no. sorry but that's about it. of course i was able to see something, someone, from a belief, and i think that may have had something to do with my able to come back. but it wasn't something that came unbiddin from outside of my own will to see and visualize that. otherwise it was just like a blank sheet of paper of infinite depth.

no trumpets and pearly gates and no 'tunnel', flashbacks, life in review or any of that.

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Ketamine is widely reported to cause NDE experiences. Furthor more, I've heard similar accounts for DMT. What's interesting about the DMT experiences is the fact that we have peneal glad sitting in the middle of our brains that's suppose to be chalked full of the stuff. I suspect that the naturally occuring DMT in each of us might be closely related to the NDE. I have no citations on this, but if anyone has more information about a possible relation between naturally occuring DMT in the peneal gland and NDEs you've got my attention.

 

Did a quick google and found this:

"Dr. Rick Strassman, while conducting DMT research in the 1990s at the University of New Mexico, advanced the theory that a massive release of Dimethyltryptamine from the pineal gland prior to death or near death was the cause of the near death experience phenomenon. Only two of his test subjects reported NDE-like audio or video hallucinations. His explanation for this was the possible lack of panic involved in the clinical setting and possible dosage differences between those administered and those encountered in actual NDE cases."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience

 

I dont talk about this very much but since its the internet Im going to share a NDE.
Years ago i was undergoing a very serious operation.
At some point I woke up in the hospital bed (post surgery) and had a whole lot of nurses and doctors crowed overtop of me yelling all kinds of things about breathing.
One of the nurses said something like "maybe he just doesnt want to breath" or something along that lines.
In retrospect she might have been trying to keep me breathing and meant more like "You gotta WANT to breath!"
At the time I took it poorly and decided Id rather just stop breathing than deal with these assholes.
I really do remember that 'fading vision' thing you see in movies to describe going unconcious heh.
So, the next thing I know is that I seem to think I might have died.
Actually, I just remember being situated in total darkness.
Not 'floating' either.
Just being 'situated' somehow.
total absolute darkness which I dont know I could compare to anything else.
I was seemingly aware of having a 'body' but at the same time having no 'substance'.
I guess you could say I still felt 'spacial' but not 'feel' anything, not my own hands or face or anything.
I always had a some sort of different time perception.. and I think I mean to say 'no time perception'.
I remember quite clearly just being situated in total absolute darkness.
no fear.
I was trying to determine how long Id been there but for some reason my sense of time reference was inapplicable.
Ok,
At some point (sorry on tunnel of light that i recall) I remember 'dropping'.
Well,
Here is the funny thing about that so i can be accurate describing unreal things.... I dont recall 'falling' but what I specifially remember was the 'landing' inside my physical body.
Imagine falling 1000 feet and landing at 700 miles an hour into a perfectly soft water bottle and what it would feel like hitting that cushion.
now,
Forget everything of the fall but just the moment you fell into that cushion and the whole weight of yourself just stopping in it.
Im just going to tell you this - I physically went up in the air, physically 'bounced upwards' and instinctively grabbed a handrail (those ones on the beds) and with all my strength somehow kept from tossling over onto the floor.

Epilogue:
For what seemed like a whole day I had no idea where I was, what was happening or where time was.
I must have slept it off enough to be spending the next day watching obviously uncomfortable nurses 'not talk to me'.
You know how you can tell that obviously something is going on by that.
Finally,
This one young nurse comes on shift and obviously makes a point to come over to me on her first chance she gets.
"Wowwwww... how do you feel??"
I reply, "well.. errr.. good"
She is just staring into my eyes with that look like she is really just fascinated to be sure Im really there heh.
Im still not sure why she is asking me (since 'apparently' nobody else saw anything).
"You dont remember??? you had quite a day there yesterday... wow.. we thought you were in trouble there.. you dont remember that???"
OH OH...
The older nurse comes right over and gives her the ole 'shhhh shhh.. come here now' and the young nurse suddenly realises she blew it.
I hear some 'chastising' and then now young nurse wont talk to me.

I can tell you three things here for sure:
- I was dehydrated (and by that I mean in the actual medical sense)
- I was on Morphine and of course whatever else they use to put you under for the surgery.

And yes I most definately did hallucinate on morphine.. very very very badly in fact, and when I say 'badly' I mean horrific visions of hell, demons, death and evil.
So bad I would wake up screaming for Christ to save me from hell and having nurses rush to stick me with needles of something else to knock me out.

For up to six month afterwards I would have bizarre psychological 'visions' which I want to tell you are shockingly similar to ones portrayed in a movie called:
Jacobs Ladder
I eventually developed panic attacks as well.

So, what do you make of all that?
Is it possible I saw previews for Jacobs Ladder (which came out weeks after my surgery) and in some hallucination and believing that I had died my mind 'created' this scenario?
or
Did I actually 'take off' for a little bit and go on a little death journey?

Do you know what I think to this day... it was both.