I am failry decent in latin, and was wondering about the similarities between latin and itallian. my latin teacher (the world famous, Mr. Warren) jokingly said that itallian is just latin in the vocative tense. so, any input?
That if you know latin you don't know italian. They have some points in common, some noun or verbs are similar, but there are too much differences between the two languages. Surely latin is closer to italian than english, but they're not so close as you maybe think. Does your teacher speak italian?
indeed he does...i think he also speaks around 3 other languages, but i could be wrong... and latin was the language of ancient rome which is today itally, so itallian is the closest language to latin. and when i go to olive garden, i can read the itallian with only my latin education. they cant be too dissimilar....
Normans invaded Sicily and before them it was invaded by Greeks but Sicily's dialect it's not similar to Danish, Norwegian or Greek! As I said, there are some nouns or verbs that are similar, but not all! German is closer to latin than italian for the grammar. And some italian nouns are the latin nouns in ablative, not in vocative. What can you read at Olive Garden? A menu, or a long text?
lol just the menu and in actuality, german has almost no latin influence, as the romans never invaded germania.
That's not true: the Roman Empire invaded south Germany. And it's not necessary a foreign empire's invasion to have some similarities in the spoken language: German, Latin and, for example, Sanskrit have declension and they are been born in different places in different ages without the contact of foreign people's. I mean, I have brown hair, you (maybe) have brown hair, but we're not brothers. Do you understand the meaning?
yeah, i have brown hair, and i get it, but every single european language has a huge part of latin in it because they were conquered by rome...here, lemme show you something... notice how the edge of the roman empire during trajans rule barely touched the egde of germania? the rule of trajan was as large as the roman empire got, so germania was never conquered. it still had its own traditions more closely resembling russian. hey, can i put you as a friend? i am rather enjoying this discussion.
latin is similar to italian... well, we can say there are a lot of similar things, but it's not the same... the cases (i don't know if there are called so), the phrase's construction, the verbs (well, there aren't so dissimilar)... that's all different, but we can say the italian is the "son"... don't forget that the deutsch has the cases, very similar to the latin... another thing: have you ever heard about the indoeuropeans?
What Berger calls "cases" are "declensions" (in italian we call them "casi"). For the Empire map, sure, the Roman Empire did not invaded all the German's territory, but a part of it (the west part and the southern called raetia). Germany was never conquered entirely, sure, but a sufficient part. For example: emperor, in german, is Kaiser that is very close to Caesar. (sure you can had me! )
Beh, oddio, perfetto una parolona grossa. Ogni tanto mi invento parole o faccio i miei scivoloni...
