Guinness

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by TreePhiend, Sep 25, 2006.

  1. TreePhiend

    TreePhiend Member

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    I heard the other day that Guinness is stored in barells lined with sheep fat the other day. This seems like one of those crazy rumors to me, but it is so gross that I wanted to know if it is true. Anyone know?
     
  2. Lazuli Blue

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    Can't find anything like that about it but as it's fined with isinglass it's not suitable for ve*gans anyway.
     
  3. homeschoolmama

    homeschoolmama Senior Member

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    Well, beer barrels WERE made of animal skins a long long time ago. And since Guiness is Irish, I'd guess that's where that could have come from.

    But I'm really doubting that they still do that. We've discovered new & far more sanitary ways to make a large waterproof container since the 1800's ;)
    love,
    mom
     
  4. RELAYER

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    Actually, it's Isinglass, which is fish guts :eek:
     
  5. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    I've heard a (verified to be false) story that Guiness used to be processed in factories that had rat problems, so when they moved to a new facility, they noticed that the flavour Guiness had in the old factory was totally different than the new flavor. They allegedly determined the reason for the old-style flavour to be rats that fell into the processing vats, and so they began putting sides of beef in every vat to make it taste better.

    Of course that story is false but ... eh you never know. The isinglass is definitely true though.
     
  6. Crystalsatreehugger

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    So guiness is stored in fish guts? My boyfriend is a bartender and he says that sounds like crap,
     
  7. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    clarified with a chemical from fish bladder (isinglass), and verifiable.
    also used in vinting and I THINK some liquor clarifications.
     
  8. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I love Guinness
    Toured the Brewery in Dublin, its huge. and smelly.

    didnt smell like fish though.


    :H
     
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  10. honeyhannah

    honeyhannah herbuhslovuh

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    Thanks for that link, I was going to try to find it...

    And hikaru something similar happened with a fruit juice company, which, has a different name now, and so that is why they are not allowed to sell unpasteurized juice anymore, unless juiced right there, on sight.
     
  11. Hot Blades Slone

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    Well, I am underage, and have had very little beer, but now I know never to drink Guiness. Is there any beer not lined with fish guts?
     
  12. sandpedlar

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    Not "Lined", but Fined. As in refined. Not guts, but chemical taken from the bladder, which is always removed from the final product.
    Yes, there are a substantial amount of isinglass-free beers. If you take a look at the post two above yours, you'll notice a url that will lead you a page that consists solely of vegan beer brewers. If in doubt, please go straight to the source. Brewers are happy to answer any questions you may have about the products.
     
  13. RELAYER

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    I know Stone was more than happy to talk to me, they responded to all my questions within a few hours. Rogues was the same way.
     
  14. RELAYER

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    What does being a bartender have to do with brewing beer?
     
  15. Sage-Phoenix

    Sage-Phoenix Imagine

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    Exensive experience of the product itself, and frankly I'd worry if the people who were selling me something weren't knowledgeable [to a reasonable degree] of the product and production processes.
     
  16. RELAYER

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    hahaha no shit? I mean besides the obvious factor that both jobs have to do with beer. I wonder just how many bartenders in the world know what lines the tanks in every brewery, for every single KIND of beer each brewery brews, that they sell in they're bar. I heard of at least one bartender that has no idea ;)
     
  17. sandpedlar

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    I've ran into plenty of people who work behind bars and have little knowledge of what they are selling. I've also ran into those who would purposely mislead thier customers.
     
  18. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Exactly
     
  19. BungalowBrad

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    Thanks for the link sandpedler

    So if the chemical taken from the bladder is removed at the end, then shouldn't all beers be fine? or is there some residue?

    What do you most of you do? Not drink alcohol much in the first place? I just became a vegetarian recently and a beer and wine fanatic at about the same time. that would kinda blow if I can't drink the good beers & wine that I want.

    I have been wondering about this since a friend and I have been brewing our own beer this summer - we're actually going to brew a pumpkin ale on thursday!
     
  20. sandpedlar

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    You can still drink plenty of great beers.
    If you don't want beer, there are tons of superb alcohols out there that have nothing to do (directly) with animals.
    I, as always, recommend absinthe and scotch, but you may find others that are animal-free that you enjoy. I am always up for a recipe swap for mixed-drinks, BTW. I have a very small, but tried-and-true collection.
    Congrats on the pumpkin brew. It should be delicious!
    ~
     
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