the case of the agro a camp strikes again, or the case of the wayward dreddie fedie?

Sorry to hear about this and heard from folks who went from Woodstock it was a great time.
Wouldn't let something like this screw up any future gatherings.
Peace

 

There are plenty of rumors about people getting beat up at nationals. I'm beginning to think that's all they are. The earliest rumor I heard was that someone was beat up for confronting the people with the keg.....A person that rode home with me after the Gathering claimed to have witnessed someone get beat up at the Agro Redneck camp- supposedly an A-Camper gone to raise hell, and supposedly "asking for it", and had to be taken to the hospital. If the person "asks for it", is it acceptable to beat them? Yesterday I gave a ride to two young sisters who told me that there was a stabbing (or more than one!)....Hadn't heard that before. Is something being swept under the rug here? Or, are rumors just being spread and growing as we speak.....

 

Some things are rumors, some aren't; but Rainbow definately isn't all about fighting.

We don't let alcohol in our kitchen cuz a lot of our crew are alcoholics who want to stay dry for a while (or are recovering alcoholics who just can't be around it). The keg for Luke was understandable to us but we can see why some folks tripped out; some folks don't relate to the fact that sometimes respect for an old Family bro wins out over tradition. Heck, y'all should have heard the freak out at Main Circle when our crew decided to serve counter-clockwise! (we are the counter culture ya know!)

 

Are you kidding me, this happend at a "Hippie" gathering about love?

Thats like the muslums who throw firebombs at churches becasue the pope said Violence is a bad way to spread reigion.

 

just gos to show we are all diffrent..

how do ya expect to love all,without excepting all??/

and how do ya purpose ya control each and everyone who chooses to act in a manner that you deem offensive?
moreover,,
nevermind..


love n light

 

Whos this directed to?
I dont understand.

 

haha, don't worry. Most of us have no idea what his idiotic ramblings mean.
Also, hypocrisy seems to be most of these rainbows way. They seem to see no problem with it.

 

yep

'offensive' is the opinion of the one who thinks they are being offended.....

 

so wait...
Beating a man to a pulp and totaling a car isent offensive?

You must be a concentration camp guard or somethign along those lines to belive that.

 

Unless its a LEO, in which case your amazing hypocrisy kicks in and everything they do is wrong. Rainbows act agro and well, we're supposed to be accepting. Anyone else, well you have no probelm passing judgement.

 

^Whats so accepting about totaling a man car and beating him up?

The KKK must be a real accepting orginization by that logic.

 

thought the conversation had moved to the keg in main circle.

as far as the original post & the beating; well is that the whole story? we (the hippiestead folks) don't like people getting beat up at Gatherings but sometimes there are reasons (still don't condone beatings, but some people don't know how any other way-makes more sense to try to teach those kind of folks a better way than to ban them from Gatherings as has been suggested in other threads this summer)

and our acceptance post was kind of directed at some of the other posts on this thread; so many different gripes on this & the 'let's bitch about Nationals' thread and a lot of them are clashes of people's personal trips. There are so many agendas being pushed around that folks forget the basics & that's just sad. Maybe if everyone who's been pushing an agenda put their energy into stopping the big problems, like the violence that seems to be invading Gatherings, then maybe those problems would get better.

 

i can't say i know the truth of the story as i didn't make it this year(or last year or last year) but if alcohol was involved then it's certainly possible it's a true story. In general, most people won't bother you about a bottle of wine(or whatever) at a Gathering if you keep it in your camp and don't get trashed and throw your drunk vibe on everyone else. i can understand folks freaking out over a keg at main circle though. That's just stupid. You can call it whatever you want, but any old time A-camper knows alcohol isn't welcome at main circle, or in most public areas at a Gathering. If you gotta be an alcoholic, keep it in your tent. If i wanna see drunks i just have to go downtown, i certainly don't have to travel cross country to a peaceful gathering just to see drunks and when they do try to throw their messed up vibe on the Gathering its a shame. Healing doesn't happen at the bottom of a bottle of booze. Never has, never will. All booze does is steal your soul and make you empty. That said, i would hope anyone considering going to a Gathering wouldn't take this tale as normal for what happens at Rainbow. There's a lot of love inside the Gatherings(not drunk "oh i love ya man" love) and a lot of beauty and healing. That's why when i show up at Rainbow i dart right past A-camp and get into the woods and stay there working in kitchens and diggin shitters and haulin wood and water and dancin and drumming at the fires.

 

soooo I have heard through a grapevine this man's story... take it with salt since it's third-generation from "I was there."

The guy parked in a bunch of people toward the end of the gathering. If you were there, you know what parking was like. A group of many people tried to get guy to park elsewhere. Guy insisted he would be right back. It got dark and guy was not back. Someone had to leave who was parked in by guy. Guy's car was picked up and moved by large group of people, who gave it a few dents for good (well, not so good) measure. Guy comes back in morning and freaks out about car, gets violent and is drunk. So he gets beat up worse (when it's out in the lot like this it's hard to pinpoint on any one camp) by a bunch of folk, and guy's car is smashed more.

Anyone want to come up with a moral to that story?

 

The keg was a tribute to Luke who passed away this year; even us, being completely non-drinkers understood why the keg was brought to main circle. The keg was a way of 'getting Luke to Main Circle' one last time. But maybe you'd have had to have known Luke to understand...

In any case, we understand both sides of the keg in main circle; but how does taking a completely one-side stance (ie-'That's just stupid') change it or even leave room for a fair exchange of opinions?

 

umm?? he shouldnt have parked as to block someone else in,, folks were more than kynd to help,but then felt upset because of the lack of feeling by the guy that parked as to block someone else in,,an then saw to it to teach him a lesson?
moral?? be pespectfull to all wherever ya go,,,lest ye be scourned opon by those that lie in wait for a reason..

love n light

 

It made the MainStreamMedia and was mocked by Jay Leno on the tonight show.
The brother who was killed was aledgedly driving fast in the parking lot.

This incident reminds me of the famous Altamount concert in 1969
When the Hells Angels, hired to be "stage security" killed a dude.

Any drunk felon, recently out of jail for raping crack dealing warlords
can assign himself to shanta sheena.

 

I took several pictors of the A-campers walking down to the main circle. They'll be onlind soon.
Badger tried to stop them, but was dragged to the ground. He was slow getting up, but he looked alright.
They brought in their keg, drunk it in memery of Luke, and then felt. Besides the inccident with Badger, they caused no problems.

scottieb

 

That is awful that someone should be beaten senseless at a gathering where 'peace and love' are meant to prevalent. And why? Just because he had dreads and got on some people nerves? That does'nt sound like a good reason (if such a thing exists) to knock someones teeth out.

 

If by this you mean the 2004 Annual in California, this is NOT TRUE. Show me your mainstream media article.

Oh, yeah, I bet he's talking about the Hairy Hugs incident. Still, technicly, not "at the gathering", as this was during Seed Camp. and I believe the victim recieved a life threatening injury but survived. I don't think Harry caught a murder or manslaughter charge over it. I'd like to hear what Jay had to say about it, though.

Is raping multiple crack dealing warlords a bad thing? In any case, most folks whose oppinions I respect with regard to "shanta sheena" (sic) would agree with Vermin Supreme (Google him. I'm sure Vermin would like that.) that the job is that of "over-glorified camp councilor", and anyone acting outside of that job description is doing something that isn't Shanti Sena.

You know, I've seen some real idjits around Rainbow Land who have claimed to be some sort of healer. How come nobody picks on CALM like they do the SS?