Lets bitch about nationals.

Talking = with mouths
Drummin= with hands

Talkin drums= with spirit


luvin' ya sister as well

 

I think that there is very important work to be done in Babylon. Many people that need help. Should I turn my back on them? I work at a garden center and sell trees to re forest the land. I also teach people about organic vegetable gardening. I think these are important things, and find my work very rewarding.

I think I can do more good standing up and conversing. the people of babylon and challenging them with my ideas than I ever could running from babylon and being afraid, and hiding out in the woods.

 

I have been birthed and raised in Nimbin, Australia till the age of 20. As I read through the posts, I can't help but have a little laugh. With due respect to those concerned - whom I beleive are truthful in what they say - I beleive that you do need to keep the idea, but move with the times. Whilst the "feel" remains the same, the times have changed, and nothing comes from living in yrs gone by - consider them great memories/stories passed on by those a little older. At the time I left tuntable (behind Nimbin) the only store we had for a huge distance was a true barter store. However, huge amounts of land was been unknowingly "sold out". Unless you can pull your beleifs into "present times" - we run a losing battle. Unfortunately, good intentions don't mean anything in todays times. You need money, contacts and education to enforce our beleifs with effect. Turning a blind eye, or refusing to succumb to this reality, really does no help.
Of real concern to myself, is the lack of time/effort people put into environmental issues. Things are most definitely not as bleak as we are lead to beleive by our governments - however, I'm constantly in awe by the amount of people who are automaticlly "assuming" things based upon what media tells us.
Many environmental 'facts' are lies, exaggerations and unscientific claims to manipulate the masses in the classic Hegelian Dialectic: create the problem, create opposition to the problem, then present your own predetermined solution. Global warming is a perfect example.
Even if earth's temperature has increased slightly, the increase is well within the natural range of known temperature variation over the last several thousand years years. Indeed, the earth experienced greater warming between the 10th and 15th centuries -- a time when vineyards thrived in England and Vikings colonised Greenland and built settlements in Canada.

When was the last time you heard this? Probably not often/never. Please, take the time to do you own research into issues - and make your own wise decisions.

 

These threads are like twisted little rivers... agenda's and passions and points of view. I have always believed that we need them all to create awarness and balance.

I got a little hung up on the whole.. Nothing comes from living in yrs. gone by and they should be viewed as, great memories/stories passed on by those a little older. Has it really changed or is that why we are all becoming more frustrated? History repeats itself and those Memories and stories came at high cost for many and should be valued, respected and learned from.
You can never Enforce your beliefs with all the money, education or contacts. There is no mission to Enforce anything.
Will we always be reinventing the wheel?
Treat all with dignity and respect.. Peace to all yall....
Sunshine

OK... Maybe with all the money

 

The title off this post is a set up. "Lets bitch about nationals" and then the author of the post start off accusing all of us that we expect perfection and wholeness and happiness and a bunch of other generalizations and assumptions. And then tells us to effectively to shut the fuck up (bury your bullshit)

Not the way to facilitate good communication.

I for one will not shut the fuck up and eat your bullshit. I've noticed a new things that we didn't like. And I'm a Witness, that's all.

The annoying ~ Nick at night holler! I would have to say, that it's a base mentality. I would compare it to 2nd hand smoke and those loud base speakers the low-riders. It's an invader.

THAT was very *babylon* the "Nick at night" thing. I don't appreciate someone asking me to pollute myself and put my life in jeopardy. It was also so very unconscious to expose the children to the 2nd hand smoke. It's like living with a tumor- you want to get rid of it

Princess Sara, I love you Sister and you need to get off my back. I'm certainly not on yours, I never said a thing when I was there, just packed up and went home.

"Hippy Dippy Ideals""Not good enough, then be alone" ~~get real. Not a rainbow-y saying, but then the rainbow is growing pale and is soon to be rather transparent before it disappears into oblivion. By the lack of love it seems.

I didn't run away, I left because I was worn out from being sucked dry by a professional vampire (not you, but a long time attendee that works in crystal kitchen), and the lack of food and water, and a baby who was very uncomfortable because he got chewed up by the mosquitoes.

Some of us are adults with dependents and have responsibilities and in reality have worked so hard our hands have bled, our feet have blistered and we've developed chronic illnesses to pay those fucking taxes that support our national forests. If I had a choice (and don't get me wrong, I am active in the politics too) none of my taxes would be used for the blood oil. These are not excuses, these are realities.

I recieved 1/2 a scoop of some sort of hotdog creation for my baby and I to share. Thank you for that, and thank you for bus and everyone that cooked and who was hauled in by dinosaur-pee. You bury your bullshit and stop name calling and stop labeling.

Your soapbox righteousness is typical of your cognitive-age and development, been there and done that. Lived on the streets myself, and so has my husband.

The tone of your tirade alienates and hardens hearts, and doesn't help at all.

Stop assuming you know me because you never met me, and would most likely judge me. Who are you to judge?

We also hauled over a thousand pounds food to give to main supply. We had to drive out to fucking oklahoma and haul this old trailer full donated and collected food back to Colorado and then up to Nationals.

And if you were at Spring Council, maybe you remember a Brother asking for help to fix his brake, like asap because his wife was having contractions and she was wanting to give birth at the Nationals?

It was my husband that spoke up in Circle and drove out to *babylon* on a sunday to find the part, & ended up going even further than Steamboat and drove onto Craig and bought the part and fixed it and never asked for any compensation. No worries, no hassle.

Speaking of Spring Council... what kind of lie is that? Holding camp really, my husband and I went to every council hosted by the Colorado Family and there myth of consensus never happened. Circle happened and we were *announced to* by Rob where the National site was going to be. He personally told me why he picked that site: to stick it to the FS because it's going to be a clear cut.

Ya'll served meat in Main Circle too. But the fried chocolate was nice. Bad for the diabetics, but very thoughtful.


Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

Damnit, let me say this One More Time----I Hate Fnarkin' Hippies! And them goddamn Rainbow Hippies are the worst of the bunch...so far gone in the head from smokin all that rope they thinik vegtables are a main course, and drums are a lead instrument...I refuse to work with them ever again, Good-Fnukin-Bye, and In Yer Neck!!!!! (so, when's the next gathering, and can you spare me a couple bucks for gas?)

 

The only true way to change the system is to work inside of it.

 

We have to get our shit together if we are all to walk out of the woods together. The White Bull Buffalo has been born.

 

How are you guys on the internet but not in babylon?

lol. sorry but i think thats alittle funny.

 

Gotta agree with ya on this one; the great babylonian monster machine...

Course hippies who wanna be free their way but don't wanna respect other hippies ways of being free are pretty funny too

 

I know nothing is perfect, but I was somewhat taken aback at the amount of authoritarianism present at the Rainbow Gathering, and have noticed many young people rebelling against it. Too many heil holys, I say. I suppose some (SOME) of it is necessary, but it makes you think. It also shows you how difficult it really is to find "utopia". Not trying to be negative, just trying to promote some self-reflection.

 

because we use the new anti-babylon body spray ......its all herbal and has a fresh scent....

 

apparently ......again...maybe this time they will not stuff it and make it into a ornament...

 

The rainbow gathering saved my life and nearly destroyed it.
Free choice and all that.
Thanks to the Rainbow I met a women named Cathy P (from MD, a friend of moondancer)
who turned me onto 12 steps, thus ending a decades long spiral into drugs &
alcohol.

I no longer "look" like a rainbow brother, I have short hair and a job.
I no longer can smoke weed or nicotine or drink or drop acid
...Oh I can if I want to, I just know that it's not my spiritual path.

So I show up (at a regional) and get accused of being a cop!
I'm not a cop, but big deal! how will you turn a cop into someone who loves peace? will yelling "pig" really convince him?
Perhaps he just saved some children from a murderer, perhaps he just prevented a rape...but to the young sister I smiled at, every white guy with short hair is a pig....
I still do not judge folks by looks, can't you?

 

I get the same looks, although my hair is long, I wear a hat and its the lack of hemp jewerly tye dye t-shirts and my clean appearence.. I tottaly understand the looks, its pretty lame how the most loving folks are the most judgemental by apperance. I still love a gathering though despite the looks I get, hell at night around main fire circle, we all look the same with that orangy glow on our faces

Clean doesnt always equal cop but I guess if ya got a vial of doses you gotta keep your guard up... in a way I understand... but then all they gotta do is put a undercover more hip looking cop in the mix... fuck I dunno... I smile at everyone...



Mike...

 

Rainbow 'is' what Rainbow 'does' so to speak

I too judge at first glance
Do they have long hair
Are they wearing hemp & tie-dyes

Am I showing my 'colors'
Hmmm

But yup when ya look within
Can you see?

Bring forth the 'luv'
Yeh still slight doubt
More ya look within
Less doubt it seems
Or is there?

So is in the 'eyes'
Of the one lQQkin?

We see what we want to believe
Or do we?
Hmmm

Our choice to choose

'wink's

'hugs'

luvin ya

 

Hey Karma,
What regional was that? I know the feeling. I too have been judged by my appearance, and when I was at nationals I swear people thought that I was a cop. Maybe I'm just overly sensitive to it....Having been busted, and been around others who have, going back nearly 30 years, I can tell you that snitches hardly ever look like cops in my experience, unless the cops are really stupid (certainly possible). Do you think they're going to send a narc that looks like a cop? Sad to say, but it's usually someone that doesnt look the part who'll get you busted (ie. looks like a hippie or stoner), and maybe someone you've known and trusted for a long time. People can easily fall victim to cop tactics, and will turn on their friends when they're facing jail.......Take care, and please remember to challenge authority, no matter the source. Peace.