Are all hippies anti-gun?

and how would we get their guns,point another gun at them.No i don't propose taking your guns,i just want you to think about your actions aand their influence.By supporting guns you're supporting the munitions factories that supply all the illegal guns or even the legal ones that are used irresponsivly.With fewer guns available that hot tempered young man would go back to using his fists instead of grabbing daddy's gun.It's about changing people's mindset instead of killing them.Kind of a hippie thing i guess.

 

no problem they well just bash your head to death with a aluminum bat or a wooden one if your on a lower budget . of course you can find all kinds of deadly weapon at your local trash = 2x4 , old thrown away steel golf club etc etc etc.

 

usa going to hell ina handbasket ya got anything new?

 

however guns have nothing to do with it is the = far left liberals or the extreme far Nazi right party . it seems we can put a president in office that actually is neutral and with some brains. as much as i hated clinton it seems like he was far better than this idiot we have today.

 

the far left is the far right nazi party.Full circle.Don't want a neutral president,just want one thats right.Clinton gave it away for a blow job

 

Ooooh yeah...

 

Not all hippies are political really. My mother is one, and she is about as detached from politics as it gets. While I dislike voilence, and I have picked up quite a lot of things, from my mother, I have no desire to own a gun myself really, but I still don't agree with the gun control thing. Just one of my weird quirks.

 

you must be very young = clinton blow job was the least thing i care for . = try things like Waco Texas and the anti gun propaganda the clinton regime was famous for ,..plus the fact he sent a signal to the radical mudlims they could get away with anything.

 

you mean that he sent a message to Waco saying they couldn't get away with anything or the taliban to wait until Bush was president to attack,no he gave it up for a blow job dad

 

QUOTE=gate68]you mean that he sent a message to Waco saying they couldn't get away with anything or the taliban to wait until Bush was president to attack,no he gave it up for a blow job dad[/QUOTE] Waco got nothing to do with the taliban i though you were smarter than that.

 

who said Waco had anything to do with the Taliban?Waco was a problem waiting to happen.Gun toting religious fanatics.Reno did fuck up the operation though.9/11 happened on Bush's watch.

 

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-09-23T080421Z_01_N22174760_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURITY-CLINTON.xml&src=rss

 

Ever heard of Rap-Hippies, basically they are like Drexel in that film "true Romance", and are badass gangster but with a hippy attitude underlying their bad feelings
Well they go to festivals and sell drugs.

 

Do you understand I.E.D's?

The most deadly weapons in human history are the modern human brain, and opposable thumbs, not firearms or explosives. Firearms are merely tools.

What does that have to do with anything? We have been waging war against each other for a few thousand years now, it doesn't matter what the tools are. War/conflict/Genocide existed before firearms, and would continue to exist even if firearms were all to magically disappear.

Many of the earliest school massacres that occurred before the first gun control measures, were carried out without firearms. Back when you could get ahold of fully automatic weapons without trouble, that is.

I would think that the school shootings, as well as violence in schools in general, is more to do with the concentration of people (especially angsty, hormonal teenagers), than it is to do with firearms. As far as I can tell (need more research), prior to the 1934 National Firearms Act, there were no school shootings in America (at least none recorded). In fact, the first notable school massacres/attacks were much more bizarre, than a shooting.

Here are the first notable incidents:
U.S.A - Bath School disaster May 18, 1927: Andrew Kehoe killed 45 people and injured 58, by detonating large quantities of explosives, that he had planted in the school.

U.S.A - Poe Elementary School Attack September 15th, 1959: Paul Orgeron detonated a briefcase of explosives in a classroom, killing six people (including himself)

GERMANY - Cologne School Massacre 11th June, 1964: Walter Seifert . . . well, just read this:

That last one is pretty weird.

Anyway, as I was saying, I believe that schools are a bit like big cities (NYC for example). If you have that enough people all confined to one area, eventually someone is going to snap.

Moore makes use of editing a hell of a lot. The way that he depicted the whole bank and rifle situation was rather dishonest.

This explains the 'Michael Moore and the rifle+bank' situation:
http://www.slimindustries.com/~bowling/bowlingforcolumbine/wackoattacko/bank.htm

Heres something funny. In America, doctors seem to be doing a better job at killing.

Let's review.

1) Kill in order to prevent loss of life and limb to yourself and your loved ones.
2) Hurt and/or seriously wound, in order to prevent loss of life and limb to yourself and your loved ones.
3) Hunting, in order to put food on the table (many people in rural areas get by on rabbits and the like, with a .22 rifle and a sharp eye).
4) Target shooting, in order to learn a skill (just like hunting), and to train to be an Olympic athlete. That's right, marksmanship is a sporting event.
5) To remind the government that you are not going to be pushed about, and have your freedoms taken away. To remind them that we still have the means to protect liberty.

Well, sucks to be you then, because there are plenty of killing tools in Canada. I'm not just talking about firearms, I'm talking about knives, clubs, baseball bats, hands, feet, elbows, knees. The list goes on.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! At least somebody here has pointed that out!

(come to mind when thinking of firearm uses)

Well rape and murder are already illegal, but that doesn't stop them from happening. Prohibition doesn't work. It didn't work in the 1930's in America, when it was alcohol, it hasn't worked in the last 40 years of the 'war on drugs', or on prostitution, and it certainly won't stop the illegal use of firearms. If you ban something, and attempt to remove it from the country, all you are doing is creating an opening on the black market, in which criminals can, and will prosper.

Better to have a gun and not need it, than to be without one, and need it. Besides, is it paranoid to own a first aid kit, a telephone to call the police, or candles in case of a power cut? Being prepared is a good thing.

A dog should be a deterrent and an early warning system, but not be expected to eliminate an armed threat.

The 'arms race', as you call it, would still exist outside of civilian ownership. It would still thrive, infact. The big companies make a lot more money on big bulk deals with government agencies and the military.

Also, to suggest that we could put an end to the manfacture and distribution of weaponry is naive at best, and childlike and immature at worst. Plenty of people have made homemade zip-guns, and even fully automatic weapons. Hell, you can download the blueprints and CAD files for many firearms, for CNC machining online.

The worst homicide rates, and rates of gun crime are all found within large cities, not in rural 'redneck' areas. Washington D.C, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles et cetera are the worst for these types of crimes, and they all have heavy restrictions on firearm ownership. I know that correlation does not equal causation, but it's worth thinking about.

Here we go:

It is a pro-gun site, but they provide genuine citations/sources and they are all listed on this website: http://www.gunowners.org/sk0802.htm

More from that website:

I will say again, THERE ARE CITATIONS AND SOURCES PROVIDED, so don't call BS, because you will just look stupid.


These statistics are from an ANTI-GUN group:

SOURCE: http://www.ichv.org/Statistics.htm

I may get flamed for this, but I really don't care much about suicides. So sue me.

Something else, also with sources/citations to back it up: http://www.jpfo.org/data-docs.htm

If you want to learn more from my side of the argument, please visit here: http://www.a-human-right.com/

 

Thank You So Much Cromlech .....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You are welcome.

 

So i take it websites are only unbiased when they back your argument.Florida is retirees.A change in the homicide rate in florida doesn't mean anything when you compare it with areas like Saint Louis.It really don't mean squat to that 3 year old girl killed in L.A a few days ago.Were the felons polled and asked how many would go into a house if they (the felons)weren't armed?

 

Number of deaths for leading causes of death:

Heart disease: 654,092

Cancer: 550,270

Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 150,147

Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 123,884

Accidents (unintentional injuries): 108,694

Diabetes: 72,815

Alzheimer's disease: 65,829

Influenza/Pneumonia: 61,472

Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 42,762

Septicemia: 33,464

 

...and we should add more?

 

The thing about the USA and its gun laws are that most people who defend the right to carry a gun believe they live in a hostile environment. Regardless of the fact that most of those people live in a town or city. They wouldnt think twice about buying a gun to protect themselves against people yet do nothing to alter the towns and cities and make them more civilised. Perhaps instead of buying a gun they could donate the money to improving life for those they seem to regard so low they would shoot. A sports hall, a cinema, a youth club, these would all be better than a society of guns
It is the pro-gun people that are making the towns and cities violent - criminals kill people rather than face the prospect of being killed. If the police were unarmed the crims would disarm - this is proven in the UK where only something like 0.5% of all criminals convicted possessed or used a weapon at the time of their arrest. that is 1/200 . Whats the figure in the usa?