i cant find a good way to ingest the powder(Peruvian torch). its some damn gross stuff, and i thought i could eat ANYTHING. i set out to eat 35 grams but could only finish about 28, and i accidentally wasted the last 7. it took a little while but i could feel the light trip, and I'm excited to get further into a good trip. what do you think is the best way to ingest the powder? capsules? is it better to just extract the mescaline?
I heard some people make it into jello, and with that they can barely taste the powder. Not completely sure how to do it, but maybe someone else knows more about this?
i put them into capsils and swallow them over a 30 minute time period. drink water to help dissolve the capsuls and help swallow them down. I was thinking on trying an extraction next time i eat the cactus. i
first time i tried t.peruvianus i did the worst thing possible... put the powder in a blender, then mixed it with water in the blender and lemon juice... but it got out like a cactus shake... it was the nastiest mixture, and the nastiest shake ever... i had like 3 full glass to drink. but i think the potency of that trip got up with the lemon juice mixture. it was quite intense 2nd time i did a method that worked fine.. simply blended the cacti into powder and poured them in a glass of water... i drank the juice a bit but realised.. fuck this won work... so i took out the wet chunks of powder... and mixed them with raisins and ate themm... the raisins strong taste and texture were awesome to get rid of the taste. i could practiccaly eat like a 3g chunk at a time without feeling the need to puke it all out
Yeah capsules are the best way because obviously you don't taste the stuff at all. The second best way is the way I do it. Just have a glass of cider beside you (I hear cider means something different in US as it does here, so when I say cider I mean alcoholic apple cider, Bulmers or Magners or Strongbow ect). Then take small handfulls of the powder/cactus and throw it into you mouth, then immediately wash it down with a big mouthful of cider. The sweetness and fizzyness of the cider completely blocks out the taste of the cactus. Repeat untill all the cactus is gone. Beer works too but is no where near as good as cider.
i hear capsules clog up your system... what if you were to make a very thick goo out of powder and lemon juice, put a spoonful at the back of your mouth and wash it down with your drink of choice?
i tried that method. the cacti is the oddest/nastiest tasting thing Ive ever eaten. as far as drinks go, orange juice worked the best out of the drinks Ive tried.... and i tested about 7 different types of drinks i would try cider as suggested. but I'm on parole and i cant take ANY alcohol.... not even hand sanitizer...
SWIM recently did dried P. Torch - he had a 1 ounce bag. He just chewed the chips using diet strawberry soda to kill the chip taste. He went slowly - too slowly - eating chips over a 90 minute period gradually. Problem was, after 1/2 the ounce, he was starting to feel the effects and could not handle tasting any more. He heard than eating 40 or more gel caps might alone cause his tummy to react. He heard powdering frozen chips and mixing with jello might be good. He is also thinking about extracting with everclear. But SWIM might next time just eat chips, faster, so he finishes them all in an hour. Even at 1/2 ounce of Chips, SWIM really enjoyed the trip, it was so fun, allowing him to communicate with nature and the universe, but next time will take early in the day as it causes insomnia!
i did capsules last night, and I'm still feeling the effects 10 hours later. i fit 31.5 grams into 60 capsules and took them over a half hour period. i decided to take a nap after eating the capsules, so i set my alarm for 2 and a half hours later. the trip wasn't too visually strong, but it was fun mentally. last time i tripped on the cacti i woke up with a terrible headache, but no poo problems. this time i have terrible diarrhea. i haven't been to sleep yet, and i have my first individual NA meeting in 5 hours. that should be interesting.
i had gas during my entire trip both times (one with out capsules and one with) both times the gas was unreleasable. but the capsules did a number on me internally. i had diarrhea 6-7 times already today.... oh and my NA meeting got canceled luckily. i was still seeing trails and my pupils where slightly bigger than average. in all id say it took 15-16 hours for all the effects to diminish. i did not expect that. but luckily i have no headache like last time.
I would have to agree with phx and opt for the jello method. It shouldn't be too difficult to just mix in the powder slowly along with the jello. I know it makes vodka and everclear taste a helluva lot better!
do a simple alcohol extraction. Take however much powder you want and get some high content alcohol- everclear is great- and soak the powder in the alcohol. drain off the liquid- save it - fill again and soak... do 3-4 times shaking the container (glass only) every so often... then take all the liquid and evaporate the alcohol off (put it in a pie plate or something similar and let a fan blow across it). You'll be left with a tar goo type stuff... you can capsule it or just spoon it in... much less stuff to deal with... maybe a teaspoon or 2 end result. the best way to consume cacti imho mip
oh for Gods sake don't do capsules of dry! Cacti can reabsorbe any water/liquid in your stomach and expand like crazy... gives you gas, stomach ache, all sorts of yucky stuff. If you don't want to do the alcohol extraction- take the pwder and equal part water... put on the stove and cook at a low simmer for like 2 hours- stir occasionally. Pour through a coffee filter... if it seems too much to drink you can boil it down a bit- drink... double yuck but it won't give you the stomach problems like taking capsule will! mip