if we had less kids, washed less often, ate no meat, bought the absolut minimum, lived simple, and used public transport, we would start to heal the earth FOR REAL. instead we read about the climate change, pollution, deforestation, complain, we want to do "actions" against the evil multinational companies that are causing all this, we are angry, and we sit on our fat asses watching the catastrophies on the tv/computer, we then drive the car to the super market and buy some soda and other disgusting gmo-food and dead animals that have been held in concentration camps and really never had a taste of normal life. This is called alienation. you are an alien to yourself: you are exactly the enemy that you pretend to despise. THOSE COMPANIES ARE JUST A REFLECTION OF OUR OWN PROBLEMS. WE are the problem. And it's nothing to be ashamed of. Because you need to first of all, REALIZE that you are actually part of the problem. you need to start with yourself, one step at a time....
Instead of posting this on a hippy forum, why don't you try to do something productive and spread the word elsewhere. You are just as much of a problem if you preach to people who already know.
Having fewer kids... good idea... Washing less often? What? Our bodies? I dont like that idea. Ate no meat? Its far too expensive to eat meat all the time but I sure as hell love a good steak
well: it's all about evolution, once you instintivly KNOW that washing too often is actully not even good for yoour body, then you just know, but, lets face it, people are on different evolutionary levels and if you eat meat, your body WILL sweat and stind more, trust me, know: i used to smell/swet a lot without reason (even when showring twice a day!) because my whole system was unhealthy. most of us dont even know what REAL health is all about. yeah, so please, be a bit humble, we all need to change, and realizr, yeah maybe....!?
It's inbred into our DNA to reproduce. It's survival, it's ensuring that the blood line lives on. I'm a proud mother of three and if I were able to, I'd have more children. There. I said it. I grow so weary of people pointing fingers for doing something that comes naturally, biologically. I feel no shame in wanting to have a family with my husband. Now if we're talking about all of the high-tech unnatural fertility treatments resulting in litters of children, that's different. I love my children and it's an insult to see so many threads about "if we had less children". Let's look at the cold hard facts. It's not these innocent childrens' faults that the world is so messed up, it's been a long time in the making due to people who just don't care about our Earth and take it for granted. Many generations of damage. Maybe if we teach these children to care, they will make a difference in this world someday. We can only hope. Peace...
well:::::: my point is exactly to show that we need to GO BEYOND OUR DNA. Sure, we need kids, but please LOOK around you, it's not like our species is gonna die out. Different times, different things to learn, we have lived with many milleniums where fertility is one of the most improtant issues of the civilsation/mening of life. Today is another day, and there are MAYBE other things to think about, environment for instance, new things to learn healing our egos (most of us have a problem with ego sickness.) we need to start HEALING: come on , look around you: the earth is sick, because of us and our greed (humans love to have things: gold, silver, junk, stuff, clothes, the latest, unhealthy food and drinks, cars, big this and that, money, and wasting money, showing off, having a collection of this of that (music albums for instance, thats one of my ego thing) etc...! WE ARE ALL PART of this problem. so, lets start to be a bit humble and think, ok, what can i change in my life? I am not condemning anybody, it's we and our own conscience... peace
Meat may taste good- but whatever efforts you are trying to make by recycling are completely defeated if you support that industry. I am not trying to be pushy- but your taste-buds are not worth the death of a beautiful, intelligent animal. Please consider trying other options in an effort to save the animals, save the environment, and ultimately save yourself. -Peace-
i don't eat meat or have kids haha but i do bathe twice a day. why? because its disgusting not to bathe in my opinion.
But that's just a psychological addiction. If you hadn't grown up in a community where people frequently wash, you wouldn't feel the need to either. But what can i say, i shower daily
I shower daily, eat meat, get stuff...I'm living my life how I want to, life is to short not to live it so you will be happy.
shirley.. i think maybe, you should realize that at 16, MAYBE, you are not in a state of total enlightenment, just maybe.....
Meat: well there are certain areas of Australia where it is less harmful to graze sheep -providing it is not overgrazed - than it is to grow wheat. Harvesting wheat can result in a great deal of soil erosion.
well, i can see that you are an "homme", and of course, vegetarianism is just for pussies! or? well i am sure that's not your opinion. you'll find everywhere in the world where meat eating is more natural than veg farming, like in east africa, whrere you just cant do farming because of no water, so the nomads lives on milk mostly, and once in a month they eat a goat, if there is a marriage or a "party". But yeah, there are exceptions, with the wheat.... but how are those animals after treated/transported/slaughetered? you need to look at the whole picture and: about australia: other things about animal killings i've heard: to do sportshoes. fabricants sometimes uses kangooroo skin, supposed to b very soft. i've seen a film how this hunting is done at night, not a pretty scene. and waht happens when a female is killed, the child, totally lost and in panic, not evec knowing he should run away stands there in front of the hunters. so they take him and bang him against the jeep in full force maybe 10 times. then he dies
I don't shower much, I cycle, Use public transport...him, I have some of those crossed off the list.....
I think its fantastic that sum ppl are ready to say good-bye to stuff but it is also important to remember we are all in different phases of learning on this planet, what is important for your enlightenment is diff to someone elses. i'm surrounded everyday by ppl who have no choice in the matter, they live by what means they can, eating meat or not. the ppl on this forum are lucky that they actually have a choice, lets go beyond that, there are bigger things to worry about.. -follow your soul, follow your destiny-
That's so true... but you know what? I heard 3\4 of the grain in America (the continent) is used not for human consuption but for animal consuption... meat... wich means vegans indirectly consume less grain than meat eaters. That said... I'm guilty of eating meat :&
It's true, most of the grain we grow feeds cows instead of humans. We also import a lot of it from third world countries to feed cows instead of starving people. It's wonderful that many people have realized that going veg is a way to help not only your own health, but the animals and the environment. Eating meat (especially with today's factory farming practices) is extremely wasteful (it takes 20 times the resources to raise animals for meat than plants for food), and as we're finding out, it's also not good for you (meat is acidic and the body thrives on a slightly alkaline ph - while cancer thrives in an acidic environment). I realize everyone is on a different path and will do things their own way, but going vegetarian/vegan was the best choice I have ever made and I haven't been sick enough to need chemical medicines or a doctor visit since. Just want to spread the word so that others can realize the happiness I've found. BTW, it was my first Rainbow Gathering that convinced me that I could go veg quite easily and still eat really really good food. Other good ideas to reduce our footprints and live more sustainably: buy locally-grown produce, convert your diesel to run on waste veggie oil (my partner & I just converted our VW bus, many cars can be converted to electric cars as well), speak out and spread the word, take part in democracy and bug your senators & representatives about environmental issues regularly, walk/bike/skate more & drive less, write to companies and ask them to use more environmentally friendly practices, read and research as much as you can, and be conscious of the effects your lifestyle has on other beings and the planet.
