Well... on this I agree... I probably gave this mushroom too much positive vibes to people who do drugs to escape from their reality for no particular reasons. But for those who know what they're doing, and have a strong mind... Well... chances are you won't be reading this thread and already know all of which I am saying. So yea... at a certain extent you are not so crazy. People in this thread should probably stay away from amanita muscaria. and I decided to read reports of people like you did, although instead of negative experiences from stupid users, here's one that caught my eye, and the kind of experience a smart psychonaut should be looking forth to. http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=19200 "have a good life :sunglasse" lol how pretencious... let me correct your statement into something a littles less sarcastic: "I am a higher being, now vamos, ignorant one...:X "
just shut the fuck up an eat it..:H so if yer so cocky to think ya know,, then why did ya even waste the energy to post asking questions?? please by all meens follow your heart and eat yer 2 grams of amanita.. "they say im cocky,i say what?? it aint braggin muther fucker if ya back it up.." pfft shut up an eat it...
ahahhahaahaha shut up an eat it kid.. then you to will be spreading negativity.. ahahahahahahahahhahahahaa
Please find a part where I used a phase of questionning o wise one... By no means am I here to ask questions or to be answered, I am here to stir some shit up and to make people less certain. Certainty is knowledge's enemy.
That was a simlie, not a metaphor...A simile is a figure of speech that expresses a resemblance between things of different kinds (usually formed with `like' or `as'). A metaphor is a figure of speech in which an expression is used to refer to something that it does not literally denote in order to suggest a similarity. Language is the first form of intelligence, everything else is ignorance. So, in which case I think you're a very ignorant boy. You're 16 years of age and you're fucking yourself up...Now believe me, I'm no angel, but you shouldn't be thinking of shit like that (let alone doing it) at your age; pot, fine, but not Muscaria.
ok ... my first language is French, and I've been self-taught English... and I excel in french litterature, and am in the advanced English classes. Knowing how to write is useless if you don't know what to write. Thanks for your concern though, but I am doing more than fine with the drugs I am taking... rarely do I take more than a substance/week, which includes weed. And I am far from fuckin up my life thank you... I still get excellent averages at school and am studying Sciences in college... I guess I'm just smart enough to know what Im doing... Which is something I see lacking in many people...
Your mental intelligence has nothing to do with what harm you're doing to your body....You may very well be intelligent, but come 20 your body will be fucked up, if not physically then mentally. And how in God's name can you tell the future pray tell? How do you know that you won't be 'fine' come 4 years?
There is practically no knowledge of the long-term effects of amanita muscaria consumption... Also because people who experiment with them will most likely never do them again (And don't get me wrong, Ive only eaten amanitas dried twice, at a reasonable, but strong enough dose... and smoked a small ammount of them a couple of times) I don't feel the need to keep on using amanita mushrooms either, but if I still did... I would fear no danger, as I would consume it without abusing it. Physically, amanitas dont do much ... I had stomach disconforts and felt a slight headache a few times while on the mushroom. Amanitas target mostly the liver... and it will take a ridiculously large dose (almost impossible to eat orally) to die of a liver failure from the correct type of mushroom. The liver self-heals, and alcohol is rather more destructive on that aspect than Amanita Muscaria. Other than that, it doesnt affect much, although there are beliefs that it can affect the Central Nervous System. Shamans have been using this mushroom for thousands of years, we're all ignorant to that matter for we have only been aware of this substance in our society for not even a few decades. They consume the mushroom every few weeks or months... and never have they felt in danger from the "negative effects" ... Although they never had problems of abuse... which is the only problem with us... I could eat a meal 3 times a day for a month, the same exact meal consisting of lets say, sausage and mashed potatoes... and my health will be terrible of course... But if one is smart enough, he knows how to balance things... it's that simple with drugs . Also I prefer not to worry about the future, sometimes ignorance is bliss.
no I get it... don't worry... it's just... if one is smart enough, he shouldn't fear the Amanita Muscaria... besides man... my drug experimentation phase is coming to a halt. And for health reasons, I have a lot of things other then the rarely consumption of amanita to worry about... the quality of the air is poor nowadays, parks are filthy, the water is polluted... etc
Back on topic Ok, last Saturday my wife and I mixed a couple grams with some schwag and smoked a bunch of bowls over the course of the day. We had dried the Amanita muscaria in the oven at 170 degrees with the door cracked for a couple hours, but it was still way too wet. So we air dried it for a week in my garage. Then we ground in up in a coffee grinder. We both loved it. It felt so good, we were gonna make some tea to really get off, but we decided to just enjoy what we had, since many report a negative experience. It made us feel energetic and like we wanted to get up and do something. I lost my sense of time, and the day seemed to last forever. Definitely euphoric. Had the strangest dream Sat nite. I had put a cot in the warehouse where I work, and was sleeping. My current boss, and a secretary from my last job (very strange indeed) woke me up, and I pulled the covers down from my face and I was just looking at them while they spoke in each others' ear, yet I couldn't hear what they were saying. I felt like I was busted for sleeping on the job, but I didn't say anything. I was looking at the both of them with that WTF look, and they were staring at me. This dream had a 'realism' that forced me to wake myself up. I recall waking myself up a couple more times that nite.
I've done amanitas. If you expect something positive, you are looking in the wrong area of drugs. These things are like a nice murder. The nausea is killer, and past that is just straight confusion. I can't describe the experience because it was so different than every other drug I've done. Straight up confused.
Now that the pissing contest is over. Everyone should try something they're curious about as long as it's done safely. The biggest concerns with eating Amanitas are misidentification=death. Muscarias are okay; pantherinas are questionable. If you've harvested them yourself, make sure you bake those bad boys to dry em out. The heat converts ibotenic acid to muscimol. Ibotenic acid is responsible for the liver damage as well as vomiting and other undesirable effects. As long as the acid is converted, you should reap some pretty substantial effects from about 10-12 g dry. Start on the low side and see what you think. Notice I say substantial effects, not good effects. I personally don't like Amanitas. Mentally, the effects are interesting in that I felt like the mushrooms were showing me the world from their point of view. The body vibrations made me feel like the earth energy and the knowledge of gaia saved in the fruiting mushrooms was being passed onto me. I didn't feel like it was a particularly deep revelation though as no knowledge was received. It was simply a mental loop of I'm going to be enlightened, the earth is speaking to me, I'm going to be enlightened, wait for it, wait for it....and then nothing. I didn't have any visual hallucinations, but physically had pins + needles type feelings in all extremities for about 5 hours. I can't say that was too pleasant, but coupled with the mental effects was interesting. It is definitely NOT like a psilocybe trip. Would i repeat the experience? Probably not. I wouldn't know that I didn't want to do it again if I hadn't tried it at least once though.
I'm glad mortes and Philo_1er said what they said here on this thread. People need the truth about amanita's and then go from there.