Has anybody ever heard of the conspiracy theories behind the Jonestown massacre. Like, it was really a mind control experiment by the CIA, or that Jim Jones was a Marxist who had ties with Cuba. Or, some people believe Jonestown was really a place to test the effects of LSD after the US had officially banned further testing. And also, how and why exactly did they have that much cyanide on hand?
It was a CIA mind control program. I know that they were in fact slaughtered. Half of them escaped, then were hunted down, killed, and brought back. The second body count they did was over double the first one. Their excuse was that some of the bodies were on top of other bodies, so they missed the ones underneath. I'm not sure about much of it, because I read about it a very long time ago. But the info's out there on the net.
Jones himself was a CIA mind controlled operative and programmer. Part of the operation was a social experiment in mass mind control, part of it was a psyop aimed at reprogramming the psyche of the American people as part of what the Tavistock Institute referred to as "future shocks". Read this article by Jonathan Vankin and John Whalen if you want to learn more: http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/tragedies/ciajonestown.shtml The late Jim Keith also goes into this in his phenominal book, Mind Control, World Control.
well i don't know about jim jones himself, but what happened in and to jonestown does have cia written all over it. i don't claim to know the details, and i'm willing to guess your author did a bit of speculating himself, but everything about the circumstances when it happend, point to something other then a voluntary mass suicide nor one at the hands of a 'demented' leader. i mean the day of a congressional visit. to people wanting to expariment with starting a new way of life. and doing so in another country in order to. circumstantialy the whole thing stinks to high heavin of political intrigue. thought so at the time and still does. i would have titled his book "who killed jim jones" but that's just me. maybe someone else had already written a book and did. =^^= .../\...
"If we can't live in peace, then let's die in peace" - Jim Jones "We didn't commit suicide, we committed an act of revolutionary suicide protesting the conditions of an inhumane world."- Jim Jones Apparently Jim had a stockpile of things such as Quaaludes, Valium, morphine, Demerol, and chloral hydrate. They had practiced the "White Night" (the group suicide) before and the members never knew if the Flavour Aid was laced or not until afterwards. Oddly though, Jim Jones uses some of the same speech phrase patterns as Charles Manson.
I'm not certain whether the Jonestown Massacre was a Conspiracy or not, but what I do know is that Jim Jones must have been well versed in psychology, because he used every technique for mind control ever devised. He had informants within his church to squash any dissention, and made it known that he had informants to instill fear. he separated families (including married couples) to isolate individuals making it easier to control them. and he punished individuals in public to humiliate them and to make it clear to his followers who was in charge (He used every technique the CIA would use) While it doesn't prove that Jonestown was some kind of bizarre social experiment conducted by the CIA, it sure smells of their involement. Hotwater
and the people who joined the hale-bopp comet too, were also involved in a government conspiracy as well, I take it??
madcrappie, Photos of Hale-Bopp were taken just before and after the Heaven's Gate suicides. some experts believe the Comet changed course and direction just moments after the suicides (as if the souls of the departed actually beamed-up) NASA and The U.S. Government have been hiding that fact from the general public Hotwater
Pressed_Rat, I was just being cynical. But that's one of the many conspiracy theories keeping the movement alive, albeit from a padded cell Hotwater
Its so sad, the amount of people that beleive something is true, purely because thats what the media tells them. Isn't NBC broadcast from the Rockerfeller tower? Wake up and learn to think for yourselves - its really not that hard, give it a go. Equally sad is peoples' naive trust in government.
Sadder still are people who believe anything no matter how ludicrous and impossible as long as someboody tells them "It's a government cover up, look out the CIA is hiding under my bed". You conspiracy nuts seem to think that the phrase "Think for yourself" means "believe exactly what we tell you". Yup, that's right if you don't agree with the loonies you're a brainwashed robot. You don't want to be a brainwashed robot right? It's a standard argument when one lacks any and all evidence to back up one's claims. "Well of course there's no evidence, the governement destroyed all of it. So you'd better agree with me or else you're a government stooge"
How many people, who beleive what the media/government tell them, take the time to research what they're told? Very few. There lies the difference in those who think for themselves as opposed to the sheeple, who are too lazy and/or naive to do so. I sure as hell don't beleive the governments destroy all evidence - I'm more inclined to beleive they don't give us all the evidence. The idea of forums, is to be able to freely express your own personal opinions. Each to their own.
Well of course they don't tell us everything. But that in no way means that anything in particular is a vast government conspiracy or that things happened in a way significantly different from the "offical" story. In order to logicaly argue that something is a conspiracy you must have actual evidence, not merely the probability that the government and/or media didn't tell us everything. Granted there are such conspiracies and cover-ups, the Leonard Peltier arrest for example. But in such cases the great weight of the evidence comes down on the side of those wishing to debunk the fraudulent "offical" version. In the case of Jonestown there really isn't any actual evidence to suggest that the CIA was involved. Now the CIA was certainly interested in the activities of the Peoples Temple and probably had undercover agents at Jonestown, but there isn't any evidence to suggest that CIA involvment went any deeper than that.
