I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I personally get hit on plenty... I don't even have to be at the pub or where ever. The thing for guys is that they have to realize that the woman is hitting on them; the fairer sex usually not as direct as us dangly sexed individuals, but they do hit on us. In general I've found that older women like a young male, also with girls my own age its simply a matter of asking... If you can get a girl to hang out with you outside of the context in which you met(work, bar, friends place, what ever) you have at least a 1/2 chance of making sweet love to that woman. You'd be suprised how far "Do you find me attractive?" or "May I kiss you" will get you. The biggest problem with males is having the balls to go after the girl(s) that they want. Simply stated, 9/10 times the woman will not be the aggressor. -MOR
Well, if "getting hit on" to you simply means a look lasting more than a second or a smile, I can say the same is true of me. I get a significant amount of attention (better terminology) from women. Almost much everyday, it's fair to say. But to me that's not enough, and that's what drives me off the wall. First because to women, often times, flirting is an end in itself. And secondly I hate to think of women as passive, wait-arounds. That's pathetic. I much rather be approached by an older woman saying "hey there, sweetie, you're looking hot in those pants" or something or other. There is nothing that arouses my consternation more than the passivity of gen-X 20s and 30-somethings. Finally, the "do you find me attractive" or "may I kiss you lines" are more than a bit humiliating to me because I do not want to be a part of the crowd of pathetic males who are always catering and looking for approval from women... Not until I see some real, active, participant interest in women as well. I don't mind catering if I'm also catered to; courting if I'm also courted; taking initiative if there is an active interest; etc. In the end I probably give women much more respect than they do themselves as agents of their own needs, but I come off as chauvinistic or something because I'm very forward about my sexual desires.
You may not get hit on all the time.... but they are lookin, And if you wanted (check the left hand first, cause married men still look too) you could go up and start talking to them. Make an excuse, ANY excuse. Ask for where the nearest payphone is, or if you can borrow their cell to make a quick call to one of ur gf's... Fact is, when it comes to women (and sometimes everything for alot of men) men think with their dicks. Period. We dont care if you got a job, car, ca nhold a good relationship etc. Men want sex, and alot of men get into relationships because of it, rather than the other way around as ideally hoped for. There are exceptions. I have known many a women who like sex more than most men I known. But she still used it to get the men she wanted. (hell she used me, i knew it, and I gladly accepted. Why? Im a man.) Men want sex, women hold the key. Simple
I consider being hit on a bit more than just eye contact and looks. When I say being hit on I mean when a woman touches you while she's talking to you, and when you chat she gazes at you with adoration. Oh and looking at your crotch is generally a sign too. Oh and who can forget fishing for compliments? "Does this make my buttlook big?" Is a double sided question, she's looking for reassurance and she's trying to get you to look at her sexually. Personally I've also found humor is good at getting girls. Now one has to be careful how you take this, don't ever joke about yourself in a demeaning way, what you think is humility looks like a lack of confidence to a girl. Also, don't joke at other peoples expense, well in my experience it doens't produce good results. I like to tell a slightly off color sex joke, I can't think of one off hand but they're usually some whitty quip thats dependent on the situation. If the girl laughs in ernest, she's at least somewhat receptive to your advances, if she laughs nervously that means she feels uncomfortable. From there there is alot of body posturing, which is impossible to describe in detail but basically the way she holds her body is either open or closed. Now all of these are just signs, in and of themselves they mean nothing, its more of big picture kind of art. And also just because a girl likes you alot doesn't nescessarily mean she will sleep with you... She's just a lot more likely than a girl who doesn't like you. Any ways thats enough from me. -MOR
Oh and I've also had a few girls come out and tell me that they think I'm attractive or that they want me, but in general most of those girls haven't been ones I really wanted to hook up with(not because of their directness but just other aspects of them) -Mor
fishing for compliments doesn't always mean se's hitting on you. generally, fishing for compliments means your disgustingly insecure. It's not eye contact that means she's interested, it's certain kinds of eye contact. if you catch her staring she's checking you out and waiting for you to come talk to her. a girl leaving her friends to go talk to some guy is alot of times a big no-no. girls in bars or in public generally do not want to ditch their girlfriends. there is also the fear of ending up completely alone with a guy you know nothing about. i know either sex can be raped or sexually assaulted, but women are generally more afraid of you than you are of them. if you want to get hit on, catch the eye of a sexy braud and go hit on her and she will hit right back if she's interested. she may not gawk at your junk, feel you up in public or ask you if her ass is fat or her tits are perfect, but if you make effort, so will she. (of course, none of this is true for all women. alot of women do take the initiative, but when they don't, these are very possibly the reasons)
I don't know where you live Opiumeyes, but around here I have almost no knowledge of women taking intiative. I mean REAL initiative, not some passive-agressive flirting crap. As far as MOR, he just put up a flirting clinic with his posts but he holy missed the point of this thread. I envy men who enjoy wooing women around, but I myself have no time, talent, patience, or desire to do it. That is why I like women who take steps or respond to my first steps decisively. Virtually inexistent in this day and age. And then people come around telling me women today are sluttier than in the 70s. Yeah, right...
If I like someone they usually know it....but it doesnt mean Im going to rip their clothes off right away and toss them into bed...it only means they stand a better chance than most to getting there
I find humour works wonders. I find joking at others expense will work, but only if it is plainly obvious that they find whoever you are joking about repulsive. Also, I wouldn't recommend joking about someone else until you know the girl a bit better. Walking up to her and making fun of someone she is laughing at is not cool. My technique is to just be open, smile, and try not to look like too much of a dork. If they don't start flirting with you (wether it is through body language or talking) within a short period of time, forget them. They simply are not interested. Women, like men, know within the first few seconds of meeting someone wether they meet their fuck standards. If you do, then they assess you according to their other standards, wether they be personality/wealth/whatever else they are interested in (I wouldn’t recommend pretending to be something you are not, they will pick up on this eventually). If they just want to fuck, they will probably let you know pretty quickly. Even if you meet all of a girls standards, they might still want to wait a while (for religious reasons) or to make sure they aren't wasting time on you (assuming they want a relationship).
*LOL* Agreed. Speaking of 'missing the point of this thread'... Seems one of us missed the point... *g*
Ok, the point is, sometimes women do hit on guys, you just have to know when one is hitting on you. If a casual flirt isn't obvious enough for you, what do you want? A woman to hold a cardboard sign above her saying fuck me? I hear guys complain about this problem alot, and its always the guys who have trouble getting women. You can use what ever excuse you want about how women should be more aggressive, but the fact of the matter is if you're not approaching women you shouldn't complain about not getting any. I would say the same thing to a woman who has guy problems. What else is there to it? -MOR
Yep, I'm trying to re-adapt my thinking, since after 3 years of a commited relationship, I'm single again. Yesterday I did some heavy flirting with someone and it just might work out. That's really all I'm asking for: interest, initiative, response. Of course, she was older than me and a foreigner... What's new? P.S.: If you "say the same thing" to women, than you're light years ahead of the game. I just resent the "men want sex, women hold the key" notion. It smacks of mysogyny, first of all. It's just the good ole' idea that women are passive, asexual unless they are "whores", incapable of making decisions, cunning but not brave, etc et al. Secondly, it puts me in a position where I have to woo women into my evil sex web, but never be wooed myself. I hate that. That is just Christian mediocrity, there's no way to deny it. And we're all affected by it, I don't care how radical, leftist, and liberated you think you are.
I am painfully aware of what you describe. I have been the odd man out in "she's just a whore" discussions with men for ages now. I've also dated someone who had a whole lot of sex and I encouraged her to take advantage of an opportunity I don't have for being male. She was ostracized continually, but I've always lent her emotional and intellectual support. YET AND STILL, all oppression out there is not going to go away by comforming to it. Women at some point HAVE to assert themselves sexually and take the heat, unjust as it might be. Only then do we have a chance of changing social superstitions regarding promiscuity.
You can resent/hate the above until you're blue in the face but it won't change the reality of the situation. Having read/said this what's behind the following exchange? Originally Posted by RoninOni Men want sex, women hold the key. Simple Originally Posted by fexurbis Excuse my sincerity, but what a pile of rubbish you just came up with.
According to this guy, men are spermatozoids competing to fertilize a passive, unmoving female gamete, at a ratio of 60,000,000,000 to 1. Lot's of fun, for sure.