UFOs: Inteligent beings or Demons from Hell?

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  1. Anima_Mercury

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    And what about the Serpent of Wisdom then?


    Besides the story of Adam and Eve is an "allegory". In Western Christian art, the fruit is most commonly depicted as an apple. One possible reason for this arises from a medieval pun. It was a source of humor to monks that the Latin word for evil was similar to the word for apple. Thus it was often said that by eating the malus (apple), Eve contracted malum (evil).

    The term "forbidden fruit" is a popular metaphor that describes any object of desire whose appeal is a direct result of the knowledge that it cannot or should not be obtained. The phrase comes from the Bible, where it is the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil eaten by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. As a result of eating this fruit, Adam and Eve lost their innocence, began to know good and evil, and were exiled from the garden where they were forced to adopt agriculture under less than desirable circumstances for a living. The concept of "knowing" good and evil can be best understood as being emotionally entangled with the struggle of determining the difference.

    Popularly, the fruit has been identified as an apple (perhaps as a Latin pun of 'malus' sounding like 'evil' and 'apple'), although the Bible does not identify the fruit as an apple.

    The term most generally refers to any indulgence or pleasure that is considered illegal or immoral and potentially dangerous or harmful, particularly relating to such things as human sexuality (underage, extramarital, or otherwise), recreational drug use, and underage alcoholic beverage consumption.

    In some biblical interpretations, the 'apple' was a metaphor for sexuality, 'the first sin' and so forth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_fruit


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  2. campbell34

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    Saying that the story of Adam and Eve is an allegory is another way of telling me you donot believe the Bible. The Bible does not waste words with endless allegories. The reason for this is, if it did, then people such as yourself could honestly say, we do not need to follow the Scriptures, because who is to say what is true and what is false. The fact is, when the Bible tells us that in the latter years the Jews will return to Israel and retake the land, and there country will be surrounded by enemies. This is clearly stated. And this prophecy is not allegory. The Bible is direct, and it is telling the world the truth. It is a truth the Bible tells us, the world will not want to hear. And that is why we have people who deny that Biblical truth, stating that its truth is just allegories. We are living in the last days. When Israel became a nation, this was the start of Gods stop watch. According to the Scriptures, the generation that was born in that year would not pass away, until all Bible prophcies would be fulfilled. Israel became a nation in the year 1948. According to the Scriptures, when Christ returns, there will still be people alive on earth who were born in the year 1948. This is not allegory, this is Biblical future prophecy that is now coming to pass. According to the Bible, many nations at the time of the end will rise up to try and destroy the state of Israel. God will use the Jews to reveal to the world who He is. The Islamic nations along with the Jews will be in for a big surprise when God shows His hand. Some of these prophecies found in the Old Testament. Ezekiel chapters 36, 37, 38 and 39. The Bible also gives a detail account, on what is going to happen here in America.
     
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    campblee- so you believein GOD and bibliological prohpecies ?
     
  4. spook13

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    Campbell, your base-line method of reasoning has always been: Because there are some passages in the Bible that can arguably be interpreted as prophecies of current world events, the whole Bible is 100% literally inerrant.

    More briefly: Some arguably-accurate prophecies = 100% Biblical inerrancy.

    This is both logically faulty and very personal and subjective reasoning.

    IMO, it's why people here don't tend to take you seriously very often.

    Just an observation, no Christian, Bible, or Campbell-bashing intended.
     
  5. Anima_Mercury

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    Not necessarily ;) Allegory doesn't mean it's a lie... When reading the Bible you don't have to internalize it literally. All the facts in the Bible (IMO) are true but many things have been distorted, the Jew people weren't the chosen one and they took all the credits for many things that had happened in another culture (Sumerian) and made it their own and so forth...

    The bible has been manipulated and distorted according to people's convenience.

    Anyway, you haven't answered me about the Serpent of Wisdom...


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    We should read it how it is written, don't you agree?




    I like to hear how you came to this conclusion.
     
  7. Sera Michele

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    Read it how it is written? Christians across the world can't even agree on an interpretation, everyone's is different, there are more denominations and variations within those dominations than one can count. What makes your's or campbell's the valid one?

    Not to mention this whole subject matter is rediculous. Are we supposed to accept a biblical interpretation from someone talking about UFO's and the aliens aboard them being demons from hell that hate christinity in paticular?
     
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    my opinion is no better than anyone else when trying to determine what Scripture says. Scripture itself is the truth, the standard. And yes, there are disagreements among Christians on certain issues, but there are also main and plain things that aren't up for different interpretations.

    An example would be allegorizing the story of Adam and Eve to where it does not mean that man was tempted by Satan and fell into a life of constant sin.
    If you do this, get rid of the rest of the Bible. There is no need for salvation.

    I'm just saying that a lot of the times we read meanings into passages that just make no sense and pay no attention to the context in which it is written. It seems to be done to the Bible in way that we don't use with other literature. I guess the bottom line is to read the Bible for all it's worth.

    no, i don't agree with the idea of aliens being demons as i mentioned in an earlier post. I think it's totally wrong, though I see how Christians are for falling for this the way it is being popularized by Christian leaders that people trust. But when you step back and look at it in light of Scripture, it's just incorrect.
     
  9. Anima_Mercury

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    Jesus Saves ;)


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    To be a poet is one thing, to predict the future thousands of years before the event happens is much different. Jesus fulfilled over three hundred prophecies of the Old Testament. And He was able to do this because the one who authored the Bible, knew the future. The Jews returned to Israel in our time, because the Bible said they would do this in the latter years. The Bible also said, that when they would return, Israel would be a cup of trembling to the nations of the world.
    And the Bible also said the focus of the world would be on the control of Jerusalem. And this is why Christian ministers hundreds of years ago could tell their people Christ coming would not take place untill after the Jews first returned to Israel, and took control of Jerusalem. These ministers believed the Bible. And time has proved them correct.
     

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