the true equation would be menstrual product (As the eggs commercially used are not fertilized) and every food product has a limit of how many band creepy crawlies can be in it and still " safe." I consume some dairy. I'm conscious of its origin. no rGBH and organic feed (to promote the pranic industry, mainly). eggs are extremely rare and only from a known source (I have a buddy with chickens. He's working on bringing back "heirloom" breeds. occasionally I'll call and say the omnis of the house are rioting and does he have a half dozen eggs?) I do agree the overuse of shocking info dulls the audience. We used to be horrified when blood was shown on TV.
Have you seen the new commercial for Wendy's. Burgervores. I started repeating it every time the commercial came on. Now DH is referring to himself as a burgervore. Kathi
re: embryo i dont think there are any roosters in chicken farms, so vegans dont have to worry about lacto-ovos eating potental chickens. its sort of like menstration for chickens, only instead of bleeding they lay eggs, which is kinda weird if you think about it (i dont care tho, i still like eggs )
hahaha i keep thinking theyre saying burgerwhores lol i call my sis that, not because she eats meat, but because she LIVES at mcdonalds
I've been calling my bf a meatmouth since before I came on this board and we both think it's cute and funny. Don't be so uptight. Call me a veggiemouth if it makes you feel better
Plainly and simply, people who don't listen. People who aren't prepared to have their minds changed. How can they ever hope to grow?
I'm sorry if it offends you but it seems so silly to me. It's like being offended over someone calling you a flower smeller, or a stuff picker upper, ya know. and it's not like I'm calling you a meat mouth personally like thats all you are, I'm talking about a group of people generally. Much like if a group of guys are together and they see a hot girl they go "wow thats a hot girl", but if you call such girl that to her face she may take it personally like she's just a piece of ass and nothing more. get it? it's just a silly saying and it's enduring to me because thats what I've called my lover on occassion. I was actually surprise to see the term coined on this board. So before you go on about how others can't grow if they don't see things your way, try and put yourself in the other person's shoes. I mean really, what is so offensive about meat mouth? I just don't get it
I've heard those free range veggie fed birds are sent to slaughter when they're old enough. That would be the problem I suppose. I eat eggs, I love them, but I also love scrambled tofu which I haven't had in forever!!!! eggs and milk are such hard things to replace, especially if you live with carnies (or is that offensive too? I want to call you guys something cute, meataseurs lol, whats not offensive???!! well I guess omni's would be the obvious answer )
There are several points I need to make here. Firstly, I'm vegan. Secondly, I don't recall going on about anything. The thread asks what everyone's pet peeves are, in connection with veg*nism. I responded by giving mine. That's not going on: it's answering. Thirdly, my problem is not with people who don't see things my way, but with people who aren't prepared to have their minds changed. My mind is continually being changed, in all sorts of ways, as I learn. Given that I am not omniscient, it makes sense to me to allow the knowledge I gain to affect me. I am constantly learning, and long may it continue. I sincerely hope I never stop. Some of the most strongly held of the beliefs and ideas I had at sixteen have now completely changed, and I'm glad of it. Not because these beliefs or ideas were necessarily wrong (as I say, I'm not omniscient) or harmful, but because that's how life is. Every time I realise that I've changed in some way, I feel that I've grown. I know people in their fifties and sixties who feel the same way, so are still changing, and I know people in their early twenties who are beginning to close their minds. That saddens me, because they're missing out on so much. Quite apart from any other implications, there is so much joy and, above all, peace to be had from allowing life to affect you. Why fight it? Why run from the things that might change your mind? That is what I mean: I think it's necessary to listen to those with whom you disagree, as well as those with whom you do agree. Fourthly, I don't get it either. I don't know why meatmouth is offensive. I hope that answers everything. Peace, Bunbury.
yes thank you. I'm always learning too We all are unless we're dead and then who knows maybe even then And I do listen but it doesn't mean I'm necessarily gonna understand someone's standpoint, but I always try. And a bunch of people telling me something I think is cute and funny isn't. Well thats just their perspectives clashing with mine. No biggie. Tho I would like that original poster who started it was offensive to please explain it, without the use of imaginary threats. good day
the "meat mouth" originator for this forum is no longer with us as s/he has gone to the troll graveyard. People have said the term bothers them, and that's their right. others don't care at all or overmuch. I simply asked if we could politely agree not to use it. We have no swear filter or anything else like that (post punk kitchen has a great one, check their forums out...it's hilarious and shiitake) so I was hoping people could be, oh, say, reasonable.
Ah..so well put. Your post reminds me of the song Beef and Broccoli by immortail techinque. I used to be like that good lord...My eyes where opend.
I have been omni, vegetarian, vegan, and raw foodist...and my biggest peeve are both preachy vegans and preachy omnis. Both are equally annoying and both lack the area of their brain that commands respect for other people's personal dietary choices. However, I will state that I have encountered more militant, preachy vegans then militant, preachy meateaters. I have never had an omni stare at my falafel pita with hummus and sneer with snide comments about how it would be better with a nice fatty steak. But I have had vegans sneer at my tuna sandwich or egg salad sandwich and try to gross me out with PeTAphile propaganda, though. I don't care about your ethics and reasoning for eating what you choose to eat. Go ahead and eat whatever you want but leave me alone, damnit.
heres my biggest pet peeve: omnis stating OVER AND OVER AND OVER that ALL vegitarians/vegans are preechy. i am not preechy, so that statement is false. if you ask me, ive met more preechy omnis, and whiny omnis. i respect their choice, because if i dont they whine, but they cant accept mine? i have NEVER EVER scolded someone for eating meat. i have NEVER EVER made a friend change their dinner plans to meet my veg needs. i have NEVER EVER called anyone 'meat mouth' or 'bunny killer' or anything like that. i am the only vegitarian in my area that i know of, aside from my moms boyfriends daughter and my uncle. but i usually never see them. like my momma always said: give peas a chance!
What I found annoying when I was a vegetarian was how meat eaters seemed to think they could demand an explanation from me, as to why I chose not to eat meat, as though: (a) it was their right to know and (b) it was my duty to impart that information I found it quite rude, really!!
Oh yes the walking encyclopaedia thing. It seems like you need to degrees in agriculture, philosophy, nutrition and animal psychology before you dare mention your diet. They always ask such stupidly vauge questions too; I mean how can you answer 'what do you eat?' with anything other than 'food'. Tend to get this mostly with new veg*ans, but it happens with omnis too ... Any remote glitch in their health (triedness, hunger, broken nail, whatever) and they get all paranoid thinking it's to do with veg. Which well maybe it is, or perhaps you just stayed up late, aren't snacking so often, or it's just one of those things. I haven't suffered anything since going veg that wouldn't be just as likely to affect an omni. Nor has my health noticably improved, so I don't buy into this notion that vegetarians are infinetly healthier. There are just too many factors beyond simple dietary choices. Animal products are not a magical exlir of good health, and neither is skipping them.
Having tried all the available diets myself I found that an omni diet consisting of fresh meats, fresh produce, and legumes has been the best for me and my children. I'd describe our daily menus as being very Asian. I honestly don't care what people eat. I don't. If my daughters want to be fruitarians when they get older....that's their choice. It's just been my experience that I have encountered more militant vegans then militant meat-eaters. I have seen plenty of vegans protesting outside of butcher shops but never saw a meat-eater protesting outside of a Wild Oats Market or a store that's strictly vegan. Though, omnis that don't respect vegetarians drive me nutters as well. I have encountered some of those rednecks when I was married. My ex likes to hang out with the most ignorant, inbred, jerks he can find. All they eat is deer and potatoes. They act like broccoli is the devil. *sighs*
I've noticed that too. My family are subbourn about liking meat, but they have become really open to veg food I make* and enjoy it. Probably about 99% of the people I know IRL are omnis, and they just leave me to it so I extend them the same courtesy (though I did encourage them to go the free range route, a compromise maybe). Yet I have seen vegans go from perfectly decent people to utterly obnoxious within two posts when a meat-eater dares enter their territory. I get so embrassed that people are coming away from the boards having encountered that kind of attitude. Then the vicious cycle continues with veg*ans complaining omnis are hostile. Mentioned it on the same forum [in a relevant thread] that I would rather date an omni than a vegan and they demanded to know why, and yeah basically proved my point. Better the devil you know I suppose, or maybe I'm less put off by the scent of flesh than self righteous rhetoric (which I've heard over and over for the three years, and guess what ... it doesn't work). Just don't see how I could be happy with someone who sees something that is such an intergral part of me as a 'work in progress', and that they have the right manipulate me into their image. No way. *I haven't cooked meat for three years; at first that was from squeamishness but now I'm just so out of the habit that I wouldn't trust myself to cook it properly. More humane all round then really