I shot a cat with a 12 gauge.

Big red does eat much better than horns.

Not many native elk round these parts... *c*

 

that's a crying shame. you can't beat elk for sheer eating goodness.

 

i like to kill my food. calling it a sport belittles the experience and it's importance in my life. it's not basketball. i don't know why you're angry. no, i don't buy meat at the grocery. mass produced cattle is wasteful in land usage, injected full of garbage, and extremely unhealthy. i don't buy fast food. it's disgusting. though i do go to restaurants from time to time, when we can affford it. we're not rich. i would prefer to only eat meat i hunted for myself, but some years i'm not fortunate, so i buy from a rancher. my friend laura's dad does a wonderful job of raising and processing meat. not everything i buy is organic. but the meat i eat is. buying it from a rancher is usually a great deal cheaper than buying at the store, too. and those ranchers "allow" wild game to live and thrive on their property.

besides that, it's not like every meal we eat requires meat in it. americans eat WAY too much meat. a single large cow elk can last over six months for a whole family! i'm an ex vegan, and my husband's family are seventh day adventists. we've a huge array of meatless meals to choose from. cooking for yourself, every meal, is not only healthier, but cheaper, and more satisfying.

 

oh, i see. you're still being pissy about the "bummer" post i made. it was a bummer. he killed a cat. he was bummed by it. it still bugs him sometimes. forgive my inability to articulate a point when i've had a couple beers.

 

i have to ask, do you categorically object to all usage of the life and death "products" of animals, or are you just against someone being a hunter? it would kinda help me understand what point you're trying to make.

 

Chicken is even worse than beef.
I've had to eliminate the bulk of chicken from my diet unless I'm in need of a system flush.

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It appears someone has a problem w/'Hunting'...

... or is just trolling.
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trolling, most likely. i don't think he has a set opinion, which is why i asked. i'm not a great fan of chicken. but my husband is. i will confess, i love getting a boiler and making up homemade chicken and noodles. my forearms scream from rolling out the dough, though, for a couple days.

 

I guess the question for TopNotch would be "did you eat the cat?" If not then killing it was a dumb thing to do, if so then it was just freerange cat and no big deal.

The question that I would have for all these veggie/vegan weirdos would be "what is it about the natural cycle of life and death that you object to?" Granted factory farmed meat is by no means natural, but freerange and wild meat fits very well into the description of the natural cycle of life and death and such.

And to the folks who want to do evil things to TopNotch due to his supposed shooting of a cat, you suck.

p.s. I still think that it is enormously likely that the original post was a troll, but since this thread is now getting interesing I no longer care whether it was a troll or not.

 

Nah. The only pussy I eat is that of my fiance

 

BTW, the OP was not a troll. It actually happened, I am sorry to say

 

Well in your favor you have backed it up better than most any troll I've ever seen. No "hahaha fuck you all, I love killing animals" posts to try and drag it out, no changes of story. Though it does seem to have changed from a story about you shooting a recently killed cat to you actually killing the cat yourself. But either it's legit or is a well developed b.s. tale/troll. And since this thread has become interesting I no longer care which it was, it doesn't matter any more since the thread as moved away from the standard "shock and dismay" posts which usually accompany trolling, and has moved on to interesting stuff.

As to killing animals in general. Yes, the reason does matter somewhat, but what is more important is what was done with the animal afterwards. Was it put to a good use, or was it left to rot. Of course the question of whether or not the animal was endangered is important too.

 

Yeah I didn't 'kill' the cat, but I did shoot it after it was killed. I would have killed it though if my cousin didn't do it first. I just wanted to shoot it, at the time. I might as well have killed it.

The corpse wasn't put to good use. It was just left in the tall grass and probably eaten by a wild animal, in which case, I guess it was put to good use, indirectly.

Either way, it was wrong and never should have happened.

 

Is it me or did the troll attempt to sidestep the question of his trolling? *c*

Not you TNS...

 

Not at all actually. If it's not a troll it's not a troll and he's just being honest. If it is a troll then he's worked it so well that I can't help but salute him for it. But again, it no longer matters since the topic as taken on a life of its own.

Anyhow the question of whether or not the animal was put to good use applies of course to more than just the particular cat in question. In fact, the cat doesn't matter. What I am really getting at is in response to jesters post.

If the animal was killed in a cruel way to provide amusment or was killed and not used for any genuine benefit that is very different from killing in order to feed oneself. Pointing that out, or decrying cruel and useless killing is not hypocritical, even if one does kill for food

 

i never judged him for it. i'd hoped to help give him a particular, spiritual meaning for it. my initial reaction was "why would you do that?" my response was "what a bummer" because he was bothered by it. actions committed during a particular period of his life will have different meanings for him later.if you'd read anything at all i posted after that initial reaction, which i don't believe in editting, since someone may have read it in the interim, you would have read that i'm not judging him for actions comitted in his youth, where our more animal reactions dominate our latter ability to control it. it's clear it bothered him. but i know your m.o. you like to attack and judge, and that's fine if you consider that your particular mission in life. me, i just think you're very young and quick to anger.

 

nah, man that's cool. i was responding to the question if IJ was trolling, just looking for someone to fight with. i did some bizarre and regrettable shit, too, once upon a time. just ask yourself why, would you do it again? how'd you feel about it. really ponder it without kicking your own ass too much and letting other people's judgemental tempers get in your way of figuring out your own brain.

 

Yeah. I'm not all that worried about it anymore. It is in the past and, if nothing else, it helped me to understand how I feel about such things. I would never do it again and I feel great regret for ever letting it happen in the first place, but there is nothing I can do about it now, so I just learn from it and move on.

BTW, I know you weren't judging me. I never got that impression. I know you just want to make sure I know how I feel about what happened and take it as a lesson in life and compassion, which I do.

Also, try not to be too angry at Jester. He has been one of the few people that realized everyone was attacking me for something that I feel sorry about and that I regret. Not necessarily defending my actions, but just trying to tell people that he believes I am sorry for it and that they are attacking me needlessly. He is cool, in my book.

I know what I did was wrong, even if I didn't fire the killing shot. It was a truely fucked up and immature thing to do.

 

See I maybe understand the whole "Shooting" it part, but why the fuck didnt you respect the dead creature, you didnt need to put shit in its eye...come on now...

 

If don't really think the animal cares...

 

Of course they are.

Are you attempting to demonstrate the long term effects of consuming "meat with chemicals pumped into it"?
You're doing an oustanding job... *c*