Do what you love! Let's make it happen, damnit!

Hey guys... if you do get this project up and running I'd love to visit for a little while and see what I could do to help. I'll be doing the college bs full-time again this fall, but I can always get away from that.

Almost all of my jobs have been physical labor types. I work on a horse farm part time right now, so doing hard work to help out wouldn't be a problem. I also do the painting drawing and crafts thing too. I'm going to school for art education, so if you're Family wants an art educator down the line then look me up.

Even if I can't stay I'd still like to meet all of you and help out a good cause like this.

-Mike

 

Hi I like your vision.

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With the advent of reaching critical mass, or a higher vibrational level for planet Earth, New ways of being and living were now ready to be implemented (as of July 2006). This meant that the lightworkers, or way-showers for these New ways, were now being put into position to bring their creations into form. These New creations involve a wide range of New roles, from the arts and entertainment, to New and higher ways of living in harmony with all of creation itself. Cob building is one of these New ways of living and being.

What does a cob cottage cost?

Cob is one of the cheapest building materials imaginable. Often the soil removed during site work is enough to build the walls. The owner-builder can supply the labor, inviting friends to join in the excitement of hand sculpting a house. With inventiveness and forethought, the costs of other components (doors, windows, roof, floors, etc.) can be extensively reduced. The Cob Cottage Company works primarily with recycled materials and handwork lumber. Using local materials such as poles, bamboo, stone, and cedar shakes, our second cottage was completed for $500, and has been lanto's and Linda's home for 3 years.

Extremely economical, a cob home can be built for as little as $500, for a modest cob cottage. Many homes are built for under $5,000. With the help of a team, cob building is ideal for a "barn raising" experience. One person can build a two-story wall in about a month.

Why Cob Building?

Building with the elements of the earth (cob: earth, clay, sand, straw, and water) places us in direct alignment with the higher realms. Because we reach the higher realms through the earth, harmonizing with her and living in structures made from her, allows us to fully embody the higher realms in an easy, fulfilling, and peaceful way.

Aesthetically pleasing, cob structures blend in beautifully with the environment. Many that live in cob homes have said that they feel they live in the earth and that their homes are growing out of the earth. Harmony!

Cob building enables one to create a living environment that perfectly suits one’s needs and desires in every way. Cob structures can be built to suit us, as we are the creators, instead of trying to fit into an already built structure of someone else’s ideas, notions or needs.

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Building a cob structure is a spiritual experience. The process itself is a sacred one. Ideally suited for children and the elderly, as well as adults, submerging oneself in creativity with elements of the earth can really bring one to center with Source. And building with cob can be an on-going creative experience as long as it needs to be. Starting small and adding on as one’s resources become available, is a reality of cob as well.

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Peace

 

Hey, I'd still like you to email me (ambria_n_taylor@yahoo.com), I will be back from Africa in a couple of years and would like to have a way to contact you! So just give me a way to get in touch with you in the future : )

Thanks!

 

It's been almost a month since the vision has posted on this. Is it still alive, or has the vision gone by the wayside like so many of these communal living projects?

 

Yah it is always nice to know what is going on - However - I do not run a farm with animals to feed and crops to get in - gardening we do, but nothing big - yet i find myself hard pressed to get half the things done i'd like to; and, with the summer nearly gone, am scrambling to get projects done which are a real hardship to try to do during the winter.
So I do understand that with the haying and crop harvesting there is going to be little time for ivory to get back on the boards - plus I would not be surprised if they went personal with PMs and emails

But hey, if you can find the time - keep us posted

Lovin ya

 

I love reading some of the posts in this forum. So many of the ideas shared here are alot like dreams of my own. One day I would love to visit or join or even assist in the genesis of an "intentional community". However, I own no land and posess no knowledge of farm life. Still, I give respect and admiration to those that have made something happen, or at the very least gave it a try.

Glad to see you're still around, oldwolf, I've been gone for a while.

 

Hi OldWolf,

I have not heard anything about IvoryVision's idea since her last post here. I just assumed her father was not as open about the idea as she was, but I do not know that for certain.

I keep, keepin' toward my dream though...working toward shedding the shackles of it all from now until May.

Peace~
Gina

 

Hey Brooklyngal,

Sorry to hear that Ivory vision has not gotten hold of you.....
You still planning on visiting here for the Oct 6>8 gathering ?
Last I heard you were planning to drive up - but I know plans change - please keep me posted.
Have you tried to email Christine ?
I'll try and see if she'll open up - sometimes when dreams fall through a feeling of dejection sets in and we really don't want to dwell in it - even to tell others who are interested.

Keep the home fire burning for your dreams - if you do not live them, they wither and die.

Blessings

Namaste

 

Oldwolf,

I'm still keeping the October gathering in mind. I have a few friends collaborating on a surprise party and so far the majority is revolving around that first weekend in October...but the date has not been confirmed as of yet. I will keep you posted on my visit. Again I appreciate your offer to pick me up at the bus, if I decide not to drive.

I think Christine's (Ivoryvision) intention for creating a community was genuine and I am sorry it wasn't able to be. I do believe in fate and I suppose the universe has other plans for me. I can only follow my way and see what opens up to me along the path.

My biggest fear is that if I don't pursue my dreams, they will wither and if not die, haunt me forever. I am in the city every day and I am reminded of what I don't want to follow. I see men and women stressing to meet their bills and working day in and day out in jobs they hate. I see them entering the offices of counselors and then pharmacists and then to the stores for new ipods and bigger t.v's. In effort after effort of trying to remedy their pain they wake up the next day to face the same reality. Even knowing this it's hard to deviate from this "norm". I have been socialized too well to this way. I feel fortunate to be working toward a way out, but I'm the minority and it can be lonely in my thoughts at times. It's comforting to come onto these boards and hear about others creating and following the alternatives. Thanks so much for sharing your writings. Something you previously said really hit home for me, about being out in nature and coming face to face with ourselves...it can be frightening. I guess that's why so many of us are clinging to distractions.

Peace~
Gina

 

so... what ever happened to this thread, anyway? It was so busy and alive and now its like at a standstill. ...I take it the father didnt buy the idea? Probably should have talked to him, first, before talking to everyone else about it, and getting them excited about something that realisticly wasnt going to happen...

 

you know - i think it will happen - maybe just not the way it was originally planned.

Yah Gina facing oneself and moving out of denial and not accepting excuses is a Major Big step.
Few do it. Most prefer to distract themselves so that they do not have to See their Self.
And the Self when fed, blossoms so beautifully and the warmth and beauty and glow - wow - how can any one not want to go there. Sometimes I just do not really understand people .....
Don't be a stranger lady
Looking forward to sitting round the warm fire of friendship and sharing

Blessing along the Way

Namaste

 

IvoryVision's last post in this thread was July31... it just seems that she is avoiding telling you all the outcome of her conversation with her father --if she spoke with him-- or, perhaps she has other plans now.....

I just thought it was interesting that the same day she created this thread, she posted she was interested in being someones housekeeper in another state: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175749

Not trying to talk down this idea... but just pointing out that it was just an idea and she had more than one......

and I see alot of people who were sincerely interested in this thread and its a shame to see them get disapointed...

 

I spent the better portion of tonight reading this thread. I must admit I'm a little dismayed by the sudden turn at the end to the loss of contact.

Gina, I'm intrigued by your enthusiasm and mindset to all of this. You seem to share some of my outlook on life. I wondered if you and I might have some common ground... I had planned to express my interest in all this but am not sure where to direct that now. I do know that I would like to change my current living situation, and I'm at a point in life where I stand a good chance of totally avoiding the materialistic and empty life if I so choose. That being said I'd be interested in hearing from you... your willingness to engage in something like Vision's idea is a huge signal to me. I have certain practical issues stemming from my disability that would prevent me from doing something like this alone. But perhaps a kindred spirit and friend to help me along at the same time encountering their own growth and experiences is just what I've needed, who knows. I'll be here though on this community

 

why dismayed n heartbroken,,,,

that is reality for the most part.... a whole lot of talk,,,, seemingly good intentions n yet no follow through,,, just disappear or completely lose the original idea,,,, it isnt just a net thing,,, its a real life thing.... everybody can talk the talk,,, few can n do walk the walk,,,,, it all seems well n good but its hard,,,,, real hard n seems that most get the first few hurdles n give up because we have grown to expect things to be handed to us,,,, spoon fed most everything,,, through our own minds, those of others n media,,,,... if something aint quite right,,, give it a pill,,,, take it to someone to fix,,,, buy something new........
so dont be disallusioned, dowhearted or let down by things such as this.... because this is a prime example of reality..... get used to it n then when ya find something real n true,,, be happy n take good from that,,,, the babble is just that...

 

dilligaf: I suppose you're right, but you know to read through and get an expectation, no matter how naiive it is, its a bit of a letdown is all... but something not wholly unexpected

It turned out to lead to inspiration for me nonetheless... and a realization that any goal worth reaching requires serious work to get there

 

One truth I have come to accept and respect:

"Be the Change you wish to See."

If you want to see something done , be part of something - then you Must Do it - not talk it.
Too often we think talking is doing - and it ain't - goota follow up with action ....Already enough global warming going on - no need to add more hot air.

Blessings

Namaste

 

Hello Everyone. Before I say anything else, I must apologize for my long absence, and my seeming abandonment of this thread, of the idea, of my "vision". When I last wrote here, I left with an air of trying to find a solid answer as to if it was ever going to happen. I'm sure that for the rest of you, coming and finding nothing must have been very disheartening. You could only assume that "nothing" was going to happen. And I am deeply sorry for that.

On the other hand, I am glad to see that while I was gone, there were people who spoke out at the apparent loss of this thread. It makes me happy to know that so many have a heart to persevere. I am sad to have frustrated you, but happy to see that you cared enough to have gotten a little angry.
To fill in where I left you all so akwardly hanging... I did talk to my dad, as I had many times before(for those of you who think I was blindly charging in, getting peoples hopes up for nothing), and we came to the conclusion that we aren't prepared on a family level for such a venture right now. Right now... Look at it again. I was heartbroken, and a dissapointed in myself, thinking that I could have done things differently and made it happen. But after turing the situation over and over in my head many times, it always came down to us, my family, not being able to take something like this on in the very near future.
As to the future that lies further ahead... It is still an open canvas. Straight away, I began researching different modes in which I might accomplish something near to my original dream.
At this point I must apologize again... As Oldwolf has been saying in so many words from the very beginning, I found that I needed to get my shit together before I expected anyone to help me get the collective shit together. Be the change. So I am. I have been moved to learn a great deal, somethings that I might not have learned had this commune started up at the time. I am NOT letting this plan fall into ruins. But I am having to change it, and I am having to learn and grow and change, and my family here is having to grow as well. This will not happen overnight.
But that is not to say that I can't have other people involved. For those of you that have any faith in the idea left, by all means stay and lend me an ear and advice. In the end I hope to see the bones of my original idea covered with the muscle of strong thought and planning, and the flesh of beautiful ideas.
Let's make it happen... Differently. I'm not positive as to how... But it will be figured out... It's meant to be.

 

aye girl,

I have never see Any Attempt or Any conmmunity that made through the fire come out unchanged.
T'is the nature of life that we must not only face change but be willing to change how we think and even how we Be if we finally decide that in spite of the obstacles we want to see it happen, and will not stop trying
Kudos for you girl for taking on the learning and not letting it die within.
And Blessed are you that you did not - for the husks of dreams left untried and unfought for poison the soul.

We must live our fire and give it the fodder to burn brighter and stronger - and that fodder is us - our reward is to Become yet More to move Beyond what we were ......- now everone does this, but most dawdle along the Way and come only because the school of hard knocks pushes them bemoaning as they come into everpresent Change.

and if you ever git off the reservationyou come by and visit - y'hear

Lovin ya

Blessings along the Way -the lessons we Learn from

Namaste (my spirit bows to your spirit)

 

warning this reply is to antagonise and make people see a little more of the picture/think about your situation and not be critical without the picture in mind.

So which is the path your family is taking. The community idea is not viable at this time but what is your family doing for the family. what is the community doing for your family.

This is just so we can see why a plan that had merit was passed over yet again...
you made it sound as if things were quite dire, did anything happen to make it look like your family will pull through this rough patch and get to keep the family farm?

Wishing you and yours all the best,

 

Oldwolf, you are a truly wise individual, and again I thank you for sharing with me, and with everyone, what you have learned. Things have always been tough here, and are only bound to get tougher as we try to pull ahead of the fear(which is what holds us back the most). But I am glad to know see that some understand that in the end we will all be better for it... That what we strive for is far more than physical and material comfort, but comfort within our own minds that we have accomplished and grown.

SSS... Am I glad to see you. Thanks for the poke. Nothing like a sharp but well placed finger to get the first step of the job done.
What are we doing as a family? This makes me happy... A good question that gives me some space to tell you all what I have learned. First, we are trying to get our act together, and make our farm more functional. Clean things up(huge undertaking, I don't know if I could make you understand how big) and re-evaluate what we are able to take on. If we tried to start anything now in this state of chaos, it would get surely get towed under... So we are going to overhaul the place the best we can, and then see what what can be done towards growing. What is the community doing for our family? *smile* I don't think we have much of a community... We live among people, but most everyone out here minds their own business, and we like it that way. I know they don't understand... Most out here of a mind to work their nine to fives for someone else's "American Dream".

The next step is mine... Part two involves me learning a great deal as quickly as I can. All that is good above us somehow placed beautiful and inspiring information in my lap... A teaser of sorts to push me to learn more. I am going to become an American Sovereign. Take back whats mine. As I stand today, something owns me, owns my baby, owns everything I think I own, and owns everything I would strive for. Same for YOU... Everyone who reads this that doesn't know what an American Sovereign is. It's true... If you have a birth certificate and a social security number, you are a slave. You are trapped within a "law" constructed to keep you slaving... First your parents put you there, but then unknowingly you enter into contract, and that is the end of your freedom. If you think being an American "citizen" makes you free, please think again, and read this link.
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/law/white-paper.htm
And then read this, a real person's experience to drive it home. http://www.wealth4freedom.com/law/Mary.htm
The second link is a short "book" of sorts, but it was what I read first that got me looking for more info. The first link is a shorter, but it gives you a good idea of how things work. Hideous stuff.
This all applies to Canadians as well, by the way. Read link two, longer but worth it!

This all may sound crazy... But the truth is there for those with enough balls to look for it.
And for those of you who either don't have balls(proverbial balls for the ladies), or those of you who were too lazy or didn't bother to read the above links... You might be wondering what good this learning does for my family, for myself, and for my visions of a community in the future. First, it will allow my family to keep their farm. (The answer to your question SSS is in those links... You are too smart not to read it. If you hold me responsible for answers to your questions, I will hold you responsible for reading something that may change your life.) Second, it will allow me freedom... True freedom. I can make a living outside of taxes, outside of undue regulation. I can teach my son without the government on my back telling me what he needs to know. I can live my life without fear. And third, which lights up my soul even more, I can share the information with others. Maybe start a community of Sovereigns. People who are their Own. People with no debt, people can do as they wish, people who are free from tyrranny. PEOPLE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN FATE. Damn, am I excited.
It is my job to learn what it takes to be come a Soveriegn, because I have made it mine, and I want to prove to my family and others that there is nothing to fear. I will be gaining more than I could ever give up. And I want you all to learn it too... I don't think I've ever wanted anything more.

For EVERYONE who has ever thought of starting or joining a commune, or who want to break free of the world, to escape modern worry, to live like we are meant to, then you have GOT to do the research to become free. Don't take what the government feeds you as truth. You are cattle to them. Laziness and fear will not only make your life miserable, it will make your life like that of a cow. Eat here, herd you there, be sold for this amount, and then kill you to cash in.
This isn't anti-governmentt mumbo jumbo that belongs in another forum... All of this is relevant to the purpose and continuation of a free life... Which is what we all dream of when we think of Communes. Take it... I won't give you the option to leave it, for if I did I would be giving you the option to opt out on Life.
For those of you who read those links and are as astonished and inspired as I was/am, talk to me. I have more information, I can tell you what I know, and if anyone, you are the people who I want to Start something with. How about a Revolution to go with our Commune, eh? *haha*
All my Love and Regard, plus a big push... ~*Christine