Buying Do's And Don'ts From A Dealer

Former dealer actually.
I never dealt dope as my only source of income (few dealers do), it was always a sideline, a part-time job if you will. Here's some tips to help you get what you pay for. (this DOES NOT apply to street corner deals from strangers)
-Finding a dealer:
Just ask friends. Look for someone who has a nice place and WHO ISN'T A KID or who doesn't live with their parents or any anti-weed sellin' people.
You want to get it at a location where there is not a lot of foot traffic. Nothing screams DOPE SOLD HERE than lots of people walking in, staying for a few minutes then walking out.
-Setting up the deal:
NEVER NEVER EVER talk about dope on the phone, e-mail, IM's, or in any other way except face-to-face. Call and say something like "Hey do you mind if I swing by?" If the dealer says "Hey I'm about ready to crash" or "I'm on the way out the door" then that means he doen't have anything for sale, or doesn't want to sell any or whatever. Don't try any kiddie code like "Hey is Mr. Purple there?", etc.
When you arrive, be cool. And don't act stressed or in a hurry.
-Determining Quality:
Any reputable dealer doesn't mind if you "try before you buy", except if your buying a small amt. If someone stopped by my place and told me they wanted to buy I'd ask "buy how much" and if they said something like "a few grams" I wouldn't smoke any with them unless I was going to anyway.
One of my pet peeves is when someone whipped out a scale and weighed the weed.
You're buying a commodity for your own use; your not buying gold for re-sale fer chrissakes. If you think the amt. of weed in the bag is worth what the dealers asking for it, buy it, if you don't think it's worth it don't buy it. You don't need to weigh it. And don't say things like "C'mon dude be cool", trying to get the dealer to put more in the bag. The "c'mon dude be cool" people I'd never sell to again.
Don't ask a dealer to front you any. That puts him in a spot. The only exception is if you know him and have done a lot of business with him before. And don't jeff him if he does spot you some--someday he might be ther only guy in town with ganja and if you owe him money he's likely to say "Beat it".
Don't whine about prices. The only difference between you and the dealer is he's got weed and you don't. And he's asking for the going rate. He doesn't set the rate. If what he's selling is going for $100 all over town, then expect to pay $100. I remember once, after a rather successfull outdoor grow, someone balked at the price and tried "C'mon dude it didn't cost you anything". Well first of all that's wrong. It DID cost me something.
Gas to get to the woods, soil, nutes, and labor inc. hours and hours of walking hot dusty trails, or getting up at 4 fucking a.m. to hotfoot it out to the woods and then pulling a full 8--5 shift at my regular job. Not to mention the years of experience it took me, and the risk of arrest. Again, if you don't thnink it's worth it, don't buy it.
And don't try to judge quality by sight and smell. It's normal, especially considering what pot costs, for a prospective buyer to look at the weed and smell it, but that's not an absolute method of determining quality. I've seen and smelled pot that seemed like KGB but ended up barely getting you high (the dreaded "Pretendica").
-Done deal:
When you try before you buy, only smoke enough to determine quality. You don't want to walk out all Chinese-eyed or with a big grin like you just got laid (unless you did and THAT's a dealer you want to keep).
Don't tell your friends where you got it. That's how dealers get busted. If someone I didn't know called or came by looking for weed with "Jimmy told me you have some dank for sale" I'd tell him he was wrong. "Hell I'm looking for some myself I'm down to my last joint." And have a back-up story of where you got it, in case the cops or your parents bust you and ask where you got it. Tell them something like "I got it from a negro on 5th and Main". If they say "then how come I saw you over near 122nd and Avalon?" say "Wasn't me you saw" or "that's where my g/f lives". NEVER NEVER EVER rat out your dealer. He was cool enought to sell to you, don't send him to prison (plus you'll have to testify in court if they bust him).
-General Tips:
Be nice. For example, if you see a guitar laying around his house, buy some picks and when you're there say "Hey can you use these my friend turned me onto them." More than likely the dealer will view you as a friend and they will be a little extra love in the bag for you.
Don't bring anyone else over with you to wait in the car. That looks suspicious. Drop them off at a nearby McDonald's etc. and pick them up on the way home; you'll want something to drink anyway).
And know this: selling/buying pot is a perfect example of the free enterprise supply-and-demand economy. If you bought some weed there a month ago and the dealer has the same thing but asks for more $ than the last time, it prob. means it's in more demand than before. If there's tons of weed around then the dealers prices will be low; if it's dry dry dry (like now) expect to pay more.
Buy as much as you possibly can when you score. That minimizes trips and you almost always get a price break (example: 1/2 oz is $100, a full oz. is $175).
And don't be annoying. A neighbor used to stop by a buy a few grams at a time. He started asking me to break the buds off the stem and get it crumbled up ready to smoke. "I don't want to pay for the stem" he'd say. Well the stem is part of the bud; it's factored into the price. I quit selling to him fucking cheapskate.

These tips don't apply to street corner deals If you get ripped off well tough luck.
And if the high price of pot bugs the shit out of you, then fucking grow your own. Then YOU can deal.

 

wow...i cant believe i just read all that. but it is good advice

 

hey ranger, you say in one part to ask your friends in finding a dealer, but later you say 'don't tell your friends where you got it'. usually when i'm looking for weed, i'll ask everyone I know, but if someone asks me for weed, i'll either hook them up personally or just say too bad. if they are a good friend i'll definetly bring them to the dealer's place though.

 

Good call.
I should have said that if a friend asks you where you got it don't tell then unless you've cleared it with the dealer first. If anyone besides A CLOSE friend asks you, lie like the wind.

 

and never ever NEVER!! pay in quarters!!!!!!! EVER!

 

Very good post.

Too bad alot of the great 'guide' type threads never get stickied.

 

I definatly understand about the scale thing

I would hook up ppl with 6 grams of mids for $25 and ppl would bitch cuz it was a gram short, nobody could get a better price than that, and if they would bitch I would just say if u dont want it then dont take it, but they always took it and called back 4 more. But I dont sell no more.

 

Rule # 1: Don't get busted!!!


Rule # 2: Please adhere to rule # 1

 

Okay, this I don't get. If I'm gonna buy a qp or a half lb or something, I'm gonna weigh it so that I'm not gonna get ripped... because it's easy to get ripped on a large amount. And even if I'm buying an oz or something like that, I dont see a problem with weighing it out... I mean not taking it all outta the bag and stuff.. just setting it on the scale, and seeing if it's close. I mean, I'm buying from them, I'm doing THEM a favor by buying their shit... I'm gonna get what I paid for. See what I mean? Although, I wouldn't weight it out everytime, just if the sack looks shady.

 

I agree, with large amt's it needs to be weighed. I was speaking from my own experience...if I was gonna do a deal for more than an oz., I wouldn't do it at home.
Btw, the seller is doing just as much of a "favor" as the buyer.
Almost everything I sold was weighed on a triple-beam. I'd zero out the scale with the bag only, and I usually put in a few grams extra (cause I'm a nice guy). But like one time I had a bag with 50 grams of popcorn buds that I took to a party to sell. It was the last of what I had to vend, and at $250 it was a hell of a good deal (5 bux a gram for good shit I mean DAMN!). I just wanted to get rid of it.
The guy who was interested held the bag, looked, smelled and smoked a bowl.
Then he weighed it. I mean Wtf? Couldn't he tell if it was worth it or not without weighing it?

 

i agree with what you're saying but its the dealer whos trying to cater to the buyer. or at least it should be.

 

Nope, not when weed is illegal and it's a black market.
Every situation is different. Some dealers may be hard up enough for the cash for you to get some leeway, but not the smart/connected ones. If you give them too much crap, the next guy won't.

When I was a kid I'd get a bit put-off by a friend of a friend saying "rule #1: don't bitch about price, ever. either pay it, or don't." A few years later I totally saw where he was coming from.

Good guide rangerdanger.

 

Nobody listen to this retarded stoner. The only fucking rule you need to know is to not piss off your dealer. Ill weigh out the fucking buds whenever i damn please. Sorry but i like getting what i payed for. BTW, I bet im not the only one whos sick you telling us what and what not to do, expecially if you give shitty advice like you just did.

 

Chill out, son. You need to quit trying to rag on ranger just cause he told you off once. First of all, everyone respects him and what he brings to the forum. Second, no one is siding with your bullshit, as all you are trying to do is start a fight. IT'S A GOD DAMN INTERNET FORUM. I repeat, chill out, you are just making enemies.
All I can expect now is that you will try to start something with me. Go ahead and prove me right. I don't mean to be offensive, there is enough anger in the world, I just think you should cool it.

Great thread ranger!

 

yeah. for the ounce and up id say its completely reasonable to weigh it out. and you really dont even need to take it out of the bag to get an accurate approximation, most zipperless sandwich bags are 1-1.5 g.

but thats some great advice, i really need to start playing it safer.




EDIT: /\ ya man, rangers widely respected as an expirienced person with helpful insight. Dont bitch at him because he told you off, or you just dont agree with his advice. If you want to weigh your bags out, weigh them out. Dont even try to take ranger down.

 

Good post Ranger.. I agree with pretty much all of it I think.

 

If you can't tell 7 grams from 5 or 28 grams from 25 then maybe you should buy weed from people you can't trust.


Everything was pretty good advice. Seeing that your making all these posts that you don't have any weed shows that maybe you don't know how to act toward your dealers.

Personally, I don't have to worry about weighing my shit. 1. becuase I know what 7 or 14 grams looks like, which is what I usally buy. 2. Becuase, the two people I buy from I've been buying from for years. 3. Becuase, they are cool enough to smoke me up when I come by, weigh it out in front of me, and maybe throw in a extra gram or two. You know why? Becuase, I've been doing lot of what Ranger said in his post for years. It pays off.

 

Yea that's totally true... dealers appreciate it if you respect them and do business with them properly. If you act right your dealer will definitely reward you .. and it's good to have that kind of healthy relationship with your dealer because after all these are illegal drugs we're talking about here so you have to play it straight.

 

i once fronted an ounce from a buddy of mine(now one of my bosses)... and i dipped out of town with the money i made... enough to buy me a train ticket and get me by for a few days... so i jumped town.. i had some issues and i left town... so a year goes by.. i have had no clue on how to get ahold of him or where he lived anymore over this time.. and i run into one of his friends daughters.. and she got word to him that i wanted to talk.. so i go over to my buddies house and give him a 1/2g and 50$ and he was like "hey i knew you were good for it" and then fronted me a oz right before i left...

ps:... this will probably not work for many of you... so dont burn your bridges... i was just lucky that he understood the situation i was in

 

^^ cool story. yeah thanks for clearing that up a bit ranger (on first page), i've always been pretty sketched/confused when it comes to asking people for dealers/telling people about dealers. i dont have TOO too much experience with dealers, but one thing im always kinda wierded out by is just phoning them (like without them knowing me) and asking if i can 'come hang out' (eg pick up some bud). do dealers always get calls from just like random people saying that and its fine, or should you introduce yourself or what? ive just always wondered about this.

i think that in terms of the buyer-seller relationship between dealers/'customers' isn't your typical consumer kinda setup, haha. the dealer deals with totally different situations than a normal business, ya know? I liked Madd Hatter's post up there ^^ with that quote "dont bitch about the price, ever, pay for it or dont"

and smokindude you're a wicked guy but you gotta let it go with ranger.