Hezbollah Videos

If either side was without fault they would have ended this now instead of chest thumping and finger pointing. And the US is complicit in allowing and promoting a far superior army to continue the activities. This is nothing I as an American am proud of.

 

CNN has a freaking countdown to the ceasefire running.

 

Then that means that Israel and the US have gained what they were after. Whether it be water for Israel or a new strategic staging area for the US.

 

Piney​

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So maybe the cluster grenades are weapons of surprising love​

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Wow, you still remember that and the dear princess, so I guess you remember what happened on Saturday,​

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Rights groups says Israel using cluster grenades​

24 Jul 2006 23:41:29 GMT​

Source: Reuters​

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Cluster bombs await returning Lebanese (as I told ya, weapons of surprising love , Oh, this very touching)​

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Monday 14 August 2006, 15:54 Makka Time, 12:54 GMT​

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Yeah I heard that US told them to go on firing, Israel was the vassale this time.​

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Ban all rockets in the entire planet, Keep the peace ​

*Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

I didn't say Hezbollah or Isreal was right or wrong.. They both hide behind civilians. All I'm saying is war is bad.. children dying on both sides is bad.. My tax money is being used to support this crap, that is really bad.


I am sorry that some people think all of Isreal is wrong or all of Lebenon or Hezbollah that is the kind of mentallity that will keep this thing alive for a long time.

btw I saw the countdown too, you could almost feel the producers drooling for one side to blow something up. It is sick to make so much off of so much suffering.

Anyway, I didn't say who was hiding or terrorists or who was right or wrong on purpose because it is obvious that everyone has their own opinion on who is 'right' in this war. Mine happens to be both sides are wrong, absolutely wrong for killing each other.

Peacenow

 

Banning arms on one side and not the other hardly seems like the best solution.

 

stepdaddy​

As Shields, if so Did Hezbollah do so, I want a proof?​

As for these videos in this thread I already discussed them in depth. ​

Agreed. ​

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Generalizing is wrong.​

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And these opinions must be based on facts not on theories or Fox news ​

So when someone wants to kill me and started to fire rockets at me, I should ​

turn my other cheek! otherwise I'm unjust and wrongdoer.​

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PeaceAlways​

*Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

cat, of course Hezbollah is hiding behind citizens of Lebenon. I don't need videos (true or not) to know that. Hezbollah was firing missiles into Isreal from Lebanon and Isreal was firing rockets back. It was not the Isreali military or Hezbollah that was suffering these attacks. Though, percentage-wise it looks like Hezbollah did a better job on its military to civilian ratio.

Its not a video or news story, people died because of this.

you say that my opions must be based on facts, but actually I have opionions because opionions are not based on facts. I know things that are based on facts. I have opions on things I feel. One thing I feel is killing is wrong, whether you hijack a plane and ram it into a building or drop a bomb on someone from a million miles away. That is my opinion, there is no right or wrong in the Isreal - Arab situation. For everyone you can find that is for Hezbollah I can find 2 that are pro-Isreal and then we can find 4 more people who are pro-Pallestine and it can snow ball like that.

I never said you were unjust for not turning the other cheek, but you dont have to hit back. If someone fired a rocket at you, I'd say RUN!!!

But that is not what happened. Isreal and Hezbollah fired rockets at each other, at civilians, and people died. No, you don't have to turn the other cheek to be a good guy, but you don't become a good guy by doing what you say you are fighting against either.

 

stepdaddy​

you need documents, proofs bla bla​

yeah yeah that's why all of them (Hezbullah's fighters) are alive they also shouldn't kill the REAL army of lebanon!!! this is a crime​

what do ya exactly mean by that! Israel declared the war suddenly. Israel is the responsible. What about the lebanese government and their so-called Army =P​

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Israel and US chose and declared the war.​

So based on what,your imagination or non-existent theories except in your imagination.
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I'm against killing, but what do you want them to do to watch! they were dropping their bombs on them unjustly? if a criminal broke into your house, and wanted to kill your wife, you will watch him? Congratulations!good decision​

So there is what?​

I don't care whether this guy is pro-Hezbollah and this gal is pro-Palestine or Israel, the important point why are ya pro-Hezbollah, Israel or Palestine.
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And what does that mean! it means turn your otha cheek! ahahah I can't believe this, so you want them to watch the bombs falling on them, on their country and families!! they declared the war all of a sudden!​

Oh yeah, run to LET them achieve their goal and invade their land again EASILY, that encourages unjustice for your info huh! there were civilians Running yet they bombed them as well! THIS IS ISRAEL YOU NEED TO READ MORE ABOUT THEM
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Nah, Israel was firing rockets and Hezbullah was reacting, Israel chose the war , and for your info according to a poll most of the israelis support the war, so don't whin. take your ppl into shelters or get them out as about one million lebanese fleed, don't want to do so face the consequences of your choice.​

I didn't say so, and again Hezbullah was reacting not acting.​

*Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

well cat I have yet to see any documentation from you.

You can prove that all of the Hezbollah fighters survived? You demand documentation from everyone and then just start coming up with statements like this.

When I say Hezbollah did better with their military to civilian percentage I mean just that. Of the people killed in the war, Isreal killed more civilians per military than Hezbollah did.

Prove to me that Isreal started this war. Hezbollah was firing missiles into Isreal. Prove to me that the US started this war. The US didn't have any troops involved. They sent arms and money to Isreal and the distraction was nice for the Iraq mess, but show me how the US started this war. Again for someone who demands proof from the people you debate, you do not provide much.

As for opinions vs. facts, opinions are by definition what you believe. It is your opinion that Hezbollah is in the right. It is some peoples opinion that Isreal is right. Fact is something that you can proove and can not be disputed. That is why when I have an opinion on something I am open to debate. You say your opinions are based on facts? What facts? You just say over and over what you believe to be true, and disregard anyone who doesn't agree.

Don't try to set up a straw man arguement either. You say because I am against killing I would let a man enter my house and kill my wife. Congratulations to you, you just used Ronald Regan's strategy to beat Dukakis. You set the aguement that a criminal entering my house mirrors the war between Hezbollah and Isreal, but it is not accurate Cat, where are the facts? The fact is before the criminal entered my house to kill my wife, I would have to be the one who shot his dog first. You have to tell the whole story.

I am not going to be the one who decides what is right for Isreal. I have my opinions but you have made it clear you aren't interested in them.


Are you trying to tell me that you would agree with someone who was pro-Isreal if they were for the right reasons? What possible reason would you give for being against someone who was pro-Hezzbolah?

Again, Cat, you take situations like you turning the other cheek when you are hit and suddenly apply it to the war. Well, Lebanon was not hit on the cheek. They had missles being shot at and from it. People died. You can be as crass about it as you like. You know how I feel.

You ask what I would have you do if someone fired a rocket at you, I said you should run. then you mis-quote me and say that you think I think Lebanon should have fled. I did not say that. I said if someone fired a rocket at you Cat. Just you, you should get the hell out of there.

The difference I think I see in what you are saying is that it is ok for the people of Isreal to die. Or somehow Hezbollah is justified in what they did. That is the main disagreement. That and you suddenly imply that I am pro-Isreal because I do not agree with you. No, I don't think the people of Isreal should have to live in a bomb shelter and I don't think the people of Lebenon should have to be fleeing and be killed on the road.

Show me proof that Hezbollah was reacting. They started the war by firing on Isreal.

 

stepdaddy​

Concerning what? the one who claims something should provide one.​

I've never claimed such a claim + Hezbollah party already declared number of their martyrs.
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Everyone! anyway, When I do so it is very logic, rational and right. I'm not stupid to believe everything!​

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Not their fault, Israel waged its war and chose that not Hezbullah and they should react and defend their country.​

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Ahahahaha that means you don't watch the news, search the news Archive​

And here is a link, do your own search, best wishes​

Reaction,​

Read what you wrote again, btw I didn't claim such a thing but some are talking about this there are other similar opinions, google them if ya want to. ​

And when you believe in something it should be based on what, on your dreams or nightmares =D​

Nope.​

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Hey dude, try to get me but if ya wanna interpret my words as ya wish, then this is bad, I will make it simple Israel waged a war i.e. was killing and trying to kill the defenders (real Army) of Lebanon, they should defend and react, A criminal wants to kill your wife go and help her defend her don't watch and run away[stepdady:If someone fired a rocket at you, I'd say RUN!!!] , get it, if ya didn't try again
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Not interested or have my own different opinion, what! should I accept yours , Nah, these are discussion forums give your opinion and I will do so, everybody can do so but no body shouldn't have other opinions or should accept others opnions and shouldn't give their opposite opinions.
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If Hezbullah fighters were wrongdoers, invaders bla bla bla​

No, I can't​

Btw stay on topic​

*Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

stepdaddy​

Nah I didn't mis-quote ya, I commented on what ya wrote, this thread is about lebanon, isn't about me, so, read it this way, what about the ppl on lebanon? if someone (Israel) fired a rocket at them. should they get the hell out of there?​

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No, but if ya want to interpret my words as ya wish, I really don't care.​

They should react and don't turn their other cheek. reaction is justified.​

Ditto​

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I already commented on this , watch the news ahaha unbelievable, stay on topic.​

*Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

You are obviously only interested in your pov cat. You use insults and belittle anyone who tries to post on this thread. I have gone through and read the entire post and you dismiss people as if you are the ultimate authority.

I can tell you feel strongly about this topic and there is a point where we do agree. I just don't like your tactics very much.

That said, I think we agree on one thing: Peace

So good luck and god bless, may we all wake up tomorrow in a world just a little more peaceful.

 

stepdaddy​

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When I differ with ya it doesn't mean so.​

?! or maybe you are just sensitive ,misinterpret my posts and misunderstand me.​

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It is a mere topic .​

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well, I don't know what are ya talking about exactly, but sometimes some member think that I am angry or Shouting at them, they start to judge according to what they think, Accordingly misinterpretation & misunderstanding or maybe pre-Judgement arise from lack of audio factors and emoticons.
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Peace is very important​

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Amen to that ^^, my deepest sincere best wishes to you =)​

Have a nice, peaceful and faithful day​

& Enjoy Allah's creation, Amen​

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*Peace and love be with you inall your steps, Amen* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

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