We always hear meat mouths get on and explain (usually preach...) about what they don't like about vegetarians, in general of course. I was wondering what everyone's pet peeves were here, from a vegetarians perspective, and not so much about meatmouths but about what you see going on in vegetarian society that you may not entirely agree upon. For example maybe how the vegetarian society is depicated or certain characteristics of some veggies themselves. (I don't mean to get personal here, just general, I hope this doesn't generate attacks on specific vegetarians, I'm just curious becuase I have my own issues with the way we're viewed and I see it as being partly because many vegetarian do hold up the sterotype). Mine is acting as if animal rights is the ONLY reason to be a vegetarian. Many people agree animals should not be treated badly but don't see it as reason to stop eating meat period (I would like to see a meat-eating animal rights faction that actually DOES something about the problem tho and if they exist I'm sorry but I haven't heard of them). I became vegetarian for health reasons and have adopted many more to continue. So I guess ethical veggies get on my nerves occasionally because they NEVER seem to talk bout anything but the torture and slaughter!!! p.s. I hate when veggies use I don't eat anything with a face hehehehehehehe, it is cute and it made me giggle the first time I heard it, but it's so groundless to me when your talking to meateaters, kinda makes us look stupid in my opinion, like we have no REAL opinions.
the original (Western) veggies were about aesthetics, so simply thinking it's odd or gross to eat a corpse puts you in great company. Those who abstained from flesh were called Pythagoreans (as in the guy from algebra, yep) until the Veg society of the UK was formed (1800s). my pet peeve is the folks who think they are veg because they stopped eating hamburgers. So you want to become a true veggie? great. earn it. and anyone who lectures about food while it is being consumed. lay off until after dinner.
Yea... I really hate when someone calls themselves a vegetarian that still eats fish or poultry. HELLO!!! These are flesh items dumdums.. not veg items. I know it's just a label, but as a veg-head, more specifically vegan, I find it absolutely freakin' annoying when omnis ask me if I eat fish or chicken because they've encountered those people that claim vegetarian and yet still eat those things. The real definition has become so clouded over the years with people deciding to mold the term to suit their own agenda that it barely means what it originally meant, which is not eating animals nor any of their by-products (forgive me ovo-lactos but in my humble opinion this means you too, I still love you though and am flexible with you guys using it cuz I know you feel you really are ;-) .... I cannot accept or be flexible with the pescetarians or poultry-heads using it though, cuz although they might feel like they are most of the time.. they just freakin' aren't). *SIGH* Don't claim it if you're not it... you're confusing the rest of society and causing people to ask us stupid questions that really shouldn't have to be asked in the first place.
I very much agree with shutterfly. It bugs me to no end when I see people eating fish and still claiming to be a vegetarian. I've even, sadly, ran into many people that thought that many types of seafood (shrimp, clams, ect.) were not living organisms capable of feeling pain, but rather types of plants. I am not quite sure how anyone could look at a shrimp with it's eyes, legs, and tail and come up with the idea that it is a type of plant, but I guess I had too much hope for intelligence in people today. I am not trying to jump on meat-eaters either, but it often bugs me that I feel like I am filling out a questionaire when I eat with some of them. "Why are you vegetarian?" "Isn't that unhealthy?" "What do you eat for dinner then if you don't eat meat?" "Eww...that looks SO gross...how do you eat that?" I could go on forever. I don't sit there and ask them why they eat meat, if it is unhealthy, what they eat for dinner, or how they find the nerve eat corpses. I hope that some day I can find people that will give me the respect that I give others with a different choice in what they consume.
I agree with the rest, that it's the most annoying when people consider themselves veggie, but still eat meat... such as poultry or fish. It's annoying to me, someone who has put forth a lot of dedication towards the lifestyle...it's almost an insult. I am not a fan of radical veggies who shove their beliefs down others throats. They give us a bad name. But all in all, I don't have many pet peeves. A dietary/lifestyle change like that can be very difficult and I try not to judge anyone... if they are making a sincere effort, and not simply doing it for the title, I'm not bothered. I equally don't have that many pet peeves with omnis... As long as they treat me with respect, they have mine as well.
Saying fish is not meat is one of mine too. I don't care what people label themselves, but I have run across the "I don't eat meat on Friday for religious reasons", while chowing down on tuna. *scratches head*
I'm with you all on the fish issue. It never even crossed my mind until I entered the world of vegetarianism that fish could be considered anything other than animals! And of course: "So... what do you eat?"
LOL I know, I love that question "What do you eat?" LMAO as if there is nothing else to eat besides meat. I don't get offended by it though, I just think it's hilarious. A lot of times I'll respond with, "do you eat cereal? or grapes? or broccoli? what about potatoes? I'm pretty sure that is all meat free, and totally edible *wink*"
on a particularly crabby day in my 20s I once responed to "what do you eat?" with "tyres and ground glass." I often respond with "food."
I hate the lack of support for being veg! It's too hard and complicated in the beginning. Big blah! Then, nobody will support you. I don't have people shoving meat in my mouth but at the same time, it's hard when there is no alternative! I WANT ALTERNATIVES!
my pet peeve is when somebody insists that you can be a veg and eat fish too. i know this was already mentioned here, but im talking about meat eaters telling me to eat fish because 'its not meat'. then what is it made of? seaweed?
my pet peeve is when vegetarians cant accept people choice to continue to eat meat. or when they make up degrading names, like meatmouth or bunny killer. i spent over a decade being vegetarian, i spent years starving too. people got to eat, and its not always easy to do. i can respect people who eat meat, and alot of them can respect me for not eating meat. i guess my big pet peeve is the PETA or krishna type thinking, the totalitarianism and the violent actions and thoughts it encourages.
When you explain to people youre vego before a party and they still try and serve you roast And mostly-omni resturaunts using the same utencils when cooking or dishing up meat AND vego food Finding ham in your vegetarian pasta meal
It bothers me to no end when people respond to meat eaters questions with the "plants have no nervous systems/feel no pain, etc" in defense of their eating them.
I'm tired of extremists. A lot of vegatarians and a lot of non-vegetarians are extremists. Extremists can never see how extreme their opinions are. Each side thinks it is being totally reasonable. I am a vegetarian, I don't believe in eating meat, but for some reason I can't stand to be around many other vegetarians because so many are extremists. I know one in particular, who rather than discussing ways of educating people about it and getting people to realize how cruel, disgusting and unhealthy it is, would rather trash talk them and say they're all idiots for eating meat. I can't stand it. You say meat-eaters preach, yet just as many vegetarians preach. It's just not seen as preaching when you're the one doing it. People need to step back and take an objective look at their opinions and the way they voice them. And finally, meat mouth; the next person to use this term gets shot. It's not cute, it's not anything but stupid. It sounds stupid, and the image it brings to mind is both disgusting and stupid. Nobody wants to hear your little nicknames for the people you deem to be below you, with their undertone of elitism, implying they're bumbling oafs who can't be blamed because they're too stupid to know what they're doing. Cut it the fuck out.
I'm with you there. It's not so bad here, but at the forum I co-mod at I've gotten so sick of the animal rights rhetoric and yelling every time an omni or hunter dares drop by. Now I'll admit some of them are antagonistic from the start and there's an inevitable degree of 'duh it's an animal rights forum what'd you expect?' but in most cases it gets way out of hand [I just stay the hell out of those threads]. It's like we're a secret club or something and you have to toe every line or we'll hound you out. I think people should step back and consider how they came to chose their veg*an diet; bet it wasn't because you'd been beaten senseless by rhetoric and made to feel like one of a satan's minions for eating a burger. There are so many parralells between diets# and cults it's not even funny. Of course movements need passionate vocal individuals; but if you're loosing sight of basic sense and decency then you are the one with the problem. Following on from the above, it's like you can't win as a vegetarian. The omnis think you're odd for not eating meat; but the vegans ugh to them you're a deluded weakling who should know better and quit the eggs/dairy/etc (because of course it's so simple/logical/whatever ... they say in the same breath as bitching about some facet of how hard it is). So how about next time you want to condemn someone for being 'just' a sympathiser/pescatarian/vegetarian, remember that evey move in that direction is a start. Who knows, by projecting a more postive sympathetic mindset they might feel inspired to progress further. #of any kind; veg*an, Atkins, whatever.
re: meatmouth: this term was introduced BY AN OMNI as part of trolling. I think we see the collective value of keeping it ion rotation is low. Nalancer is correct: it is not cute, funny or anything other than inflammitory. HS mama calls her sweetie "meatosaur," but I bet she does that in real life (and she is so unlikely to hurt someone's feelings.) Can we agree to let "meatmouth" die? after all, what is your tounge but meat?
it makes me mad when vegans start to preach to vegetarians about the abuse in the dairy industry and "aborted chicken fetuses". it's the worst when you're trying to eat a ice cream and someone says "DID YOU KNOW THERES BLOOD AND PUS IN MILK?? THEY USE THE STUFF THATS TOO GROSS TO DRINK IN ICE CREAM" the response has become "yup", followed by horrified looks as i continue my tasty cone. its also irritating to have to explain that an egg is NOT a chicken fetus, never was, and never will be. plus, i think the term is embryo anyway.