So, where I live there are so many folks throwing trash out their car windows that you can lay the trash end to end down the roadside for miles at a time. And there are all these "good hippys" camping on the land and living here and there like gypsies, and when they leave, they leave clothes, trash, old furniture, dirty needles, diapers, blankets, tents... You go to Walmart and suddenly you are in a very horrible si-fi movie. Cameras everywhere, maybe even watching you take a shit. TV's telling you what to buy, shitty employees with bad attitudes who would rather be ANYWHERE else besides where they are. Try calling "customer service". ANYWHERE. Where do they find all those rude and ignorant people? There is one in every 135 people in jail in the US. Not very good odds, is it? And the cops are the biggest criminals. And then there are the drunks. I bet one out of two people around here are alcoholics. At least. Ignorant, rude, beligerant. Throwing their beer cans everywhere, and breaking their beer bottles on the road and in the grass. Everyone talking at once, no one hearing anything, louder and louder until everyone is yelling, saying absolutely nothing of any importance. Fights break out, everyone truying to have the biggest dick... Paperwork and taxes... Red tape and rules... Bills and laws... Thieves. They even stole my Budda! Where is the gas? The wrench? The tire for my car? Bad attitudes, lazy people, junkies, liars. Screw it!!! I vote for moving to the woods, as far away from all this B.S. as possible! Where the heck are the rest of the caretakers!!! I can't run this nut house all by myself! I quit.
about the trash/ so have you tried gettin people around your area to join with you talk to whoever runs the show over there and complain maybe just maybe he lisens about the good hippies/ .......idk about walmart/ dont go i guess do organized riots in the front of it about customer service/ dont call them i guess about jail/ keep out of trobel ....nothin alse about drunks/ wow man that suks lmao about tryin to have the biggest dicks/ mines the biggest........just a little joke about bills and stuff/ yeah im too young i wouldent kno about thieves / they will get theres about shitty people/ surround yourself with healthy people who have eyes and share interest about quiting/ quiting is worse than death it means your not strong enough to go on and not strong enough to just settle <<<<<<yeah man i kno its cheesy but i guess it helps me at times this is not like me givin u advise as if i was wiser than u but just meer comments from human to human pull THRU it i bet u its worth it
I don't throw my trash anywhere but the trash can.Even if it's just a small gum wrapper,I'll put it in my pocket untill I come across a trash can to throw it in. The only place I litter at is my room!...What a mess!
That's the only thing I hate about Travellers. They never ever clean up after themselves and then they wonder why the councils and general communities aren't welcoming.
"Screw it!!! I vote for moving to the woods, as far away from all this B.S. as possible!" - that's how all those hippies came to be camping on the land. I think if you go join them and help pick up the trash when you all move on you will have solved all of your problems.
How is it said .... "Be the change you want to see" Sometimes the lessons we See are how not to be.... we are in charge of our own actions - free choice with all it's downsides is still preferable to the alternative. Living in the woods myself - it is grand
Na, you don't get it. If I wanted to live with a bunch of trashy"hippycrytes" in the woods, I could. And then I would be the one doing most of the cleanup, as usual. Better to be responsible for yourself unless you can actually find other folks who are as diligent...
Totally agree, but the problem seems to be that in this day and age setting a good example gets lost on many folks. I've been hard at it for many years, trying to set a good example and teaching others about those common sense things like being responsible for yourself, your space, and keeping it clean. But the prevalent lifestyle of typical society seems to run towards the self centered and thoughtless... I see alot of so called hippys who take total advantage of ground scores. Yay, groundscore! Only trouble is, they get confused between what is actually being thrown away or left behind unwanted, and what is there for a reason. Sometimes they don't even wait for the body to get cold... Sometimes they show up with all their gear, and just lose it all and "score" different stuff instead. This little utopian nightmare ends up with folks getting things stolen and piles of stuff left behind that is unclaimed that SOMEONE has to do something with. And the thing is, nobody wants to complain too loudly because that wouldn't be "hip" right? Because in that kind of environment we are all way too "cool" to be hassling anybody about stuff like that........ Hey, I'm really disgusted with "bliss ninnies". Oh, brother, sister, I love everybody!!!! Now, feed me, give me tobacco, nuggets, a place to stay, and I'll make lots of sweet promises about helping and earning my keep, but when it's all over you get to clean up my mess, and you may not ever find some of your stuff again, but hey, it looked like a ground score to me...... Yup, I live in the woods, but not far enough away from all this nonsense. If you happen to "own" your own place, which we do, you can't seem to escape the totally loving, kind, and hip users, unless you decide to just simply be a total dick and run everyone off. This is an issue that I have had my FILL of from years and years of the same shit different day. And so, rather than be an asshole to a few, I figured I'd spread this around a little in hopes that someone out there in hippyland would get the message loud and clear.
Yah earthed one, I do hear you - we have 175 acres and the nearest neighbor about 1 mile away as the crow flies and 2 as the car drives. Our hollow has an energy of her own that makes one look inside oneself - and so I find myself the only full time resident (as well as the one holding legal title) - So I do not have many of the problems you speak of. BUT - as we strive to slowly open up to community, while not soliciting members (we do write in detail about it - used to be on communal forum, but after several years the personal forums came along and so mostly we go on in there http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2917 ), but letting those so inclined be led here by spirit. People have come but so far few stay and we only have 3 actively working (old crone, moving cloud, oldwolf) to make it happen - which as we sort out the how, we learn - which has always been the primary goal. Y'know sister - hippies have always been that way - mostly takers - just not quite so much as the mainstream. In my younger I never considered myself a hippy - their trip was to selfseeking - while I was seeking Self. Sometimes all we have is what we live - and if we give up on ourSelfs - well fuck me - literally - I am fucked - because there ain't anything left then. This world - this earth is so wondrous and full of potential - and so abused. Man walks on Her without reverence to the sustenance she gives us from her own corporality - for man has forgotten the this realm is borrowed and we are spirit. We as individuals MUST give example by our lives that which we hold dear - else we only contribute to the woes She be already overburdened with. And those that do Live their lives True - are rewarded by a relationship the earth gives freely and she opens her secret places and we all become her lovers. And WE Learn And we Grow - all of us. And those who lives forgetfully still feed us all by the experiences they garner as they tumbleweed unAware through their lives - But what a fucking bloody shameful Waste. Think of what could BE if we lived life Aware and Being True to Self - Connected to All - ach - Each individual Has within their Being the potential to do so - and no one else's acts or lacks provides any excuses for not doing so ! This society - the worldly culture is lost amidst co-dependence and I deserve and greed - the little lights must polish their facets so that the Diamond that Is Existence can shine through from within each of us. To not do so is at each ones own peril, - for without that what have we ? In truth - not one damn thing - for what we truly own is only our own Being Keep the faith my sister and polish that facet - I promise and have no desire but to do the same; and may each of us See and understand and become yet more Aware and more ready to move into the Beyond because of it. Blessed Be Namaste (my spirit bows to your spirit)
Oldwolf, thanks so much for the light. It is a fine thing to find people of your caliber. I looked at your post about the communal idea and see it is well thought out. I fear I am a bit jaded right at the moment and want nothing more than to take a vacation from trying to help the masses. A little God in everyone, but even so, many cannot be helped but for a moment. I will say that having sort of an open door policy here has brought us also some of the best friends we could ever hope to find, who we might not have crossed paths with otherwise. But in having an open door we have left ourselves wide open to being used up. My idea has always been to allow folks to make whatever karma they will and not spend a great deal of time trying to get them to do certain things. If someone is using too much we discuss with them things that really need to be done, and usually if they do not feel like doing any more than just hanging around they will slip away. But in that light, once they have done this they cannot go back. And so their karma causes bridges to burn. But this method grows tiring, even for someone with immaculate patience. I could no more stop setting an example than I could stop being a freemale, so no worries there. And in going on strike so to speak, the locals who have gotten themselves so used to doing whatever they wish will be affected the greatest, and therefore a strong lesson, which they needed desperately. Time for a slightly new direction and a new example. I am originally from South Western NY. Beautiful country. Hard weather. I needed a respite from so many months of snow. That is how I ended here. Living on land that I inherited thru karma. It has been a great responsibility, and things have gotten off track in the name of loving kindness. So it is time to go on to the next level. My nature dictates that I must be true to myself which is why I must speak out about these things. Thank you again. Love-n-light Earthmother
