Cannabis pros and cons

There are positive things, or else they wouldn't do it??? I don't quite know where to go with that logic, I don't want to preach, but I will only say this: Your body has been, and will continue to be good to you, be good to your body! Stand in front of a mirror and take a good hard look at what a marvel it is, this very capable and unique creation that is your one and only body! It will take you anywhere you want to go for many years to come and do wonderous things. It is a truly wonderful creation and houses a mind that is like no other entity in the universe. And you want to consider pouring sludge into it? You want to poison it, screw with a marvelously working machine? For what? For what? There is NOTHING that drugs will give you that you can't experience equally, better, just by experiencing the realities of life as you have yet to discover. It's a hell of a wonderful world we live on, full of fantastic things to experience, taste, feel and enjoy naturally. You have the greatest vehicle to go through this world in that will last you faithfully for many, many years if you take care of it.....take care of it! You've heard the saying that your body should be your temple? Not a bad concept. Think of what it will go through as you go through life! My body is sacro sanct. I have come to realize how important it is to my enjoying life to the fullist, mostly because I have witnessed the wrecks a hell of a lot of people have made of themselves and their lives, and the lives of others, because they bought into bone headed philosophies like, "That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger!". Makes for a good T-shirt, but it doesn't give you your breath back when your lungs are toast, or your liver back when it is overloaded with crap! Take a step back and see what people are putting into their bodies, and then look at why people are suffering horrible health issues and dying some pretty miserable deaths, more often cutting life way too short. It's bad enough we have so many natural diseases. Personally, I don't want to live my life as a chronic patient, I don't want to say "I can't" because I've screwed my body up so that "I can't", and you need to decide now how you want to end up. Trust me, there are lots of lifes losers that have made the losers declaration: I wish I could go back and change things! I wouldn't have started! My view comes from watching too many people flush their lives down the toilet for no good reason. Cheap thrills are damn expensive.

 

The only bad thing for me so far was the tonsilitis...

 

same thing happened to me a day before i was supposed to graduate! it sucked...had to spend two months in drug counseling.

 

Timetraveler-
while I understand and agree with most of what you said, I still don't think that smoking pot is bad. I do think that it is bad to depend on it. But I see NOTHING wrong with experimenting, or even smoking casually. You say we're pouring "sludge" in our brains? We are not fucking up our brains by smoking some leaves, we are activating circuits of our brains that could never be used otherwise!
What people need to learn is that too much of ANYTHING is bad.
Yes, I do think that there are some people who probably shouldn't smoke (for example, people who would be too dependent on it for life).
BUt there are many other people who know how to use it moderately, and safely. I think it is HEALTHY
But that doesn't mean that there aren't people who know how to use it maturely, wisely, and have good fun.

 

Timetraveler-
while I understand and agree with most of what you said, I still don't think that smoking pot is bad. I do think that it is bad to depend on it. But I see NOTHING wrong with experimenting, or even smoking casually. You say we're pouring "sludge" in our brains? We are not fucking up our brains by smoking some leaves, we are activating circuits of our brains that could never be used otherwise!
What people need to learn is that too much of ANYTHING is bad.
Yes, I do think that there are some people who probably shouldn't smoke (for example, people who would be too dependent on it for life).
But there are many other people who know how to use it moderately, and safely. I think it is HEALTHY for our brains to be using them in different ways.
But that doesn't mean that there aren't people who know how to use it maturely, wisely, and have good fun. Smoking is great.

Cheers and Love,
Dylan

 

Cheers Dylan,
Nice note! I'm not too sure about the circuits that could never be used otherwise part, but you've got good points too. Absolutely right-on about the moderation thingie. However, Ol' Jen there in Kent is at a point in her life where she is asking about decision making aspects concerning something that we all face, more so since the 60s. As you point out, there are many people who should give it a miss...but who chooses who that is? How do we cull out of the herd those who will not end up babbling to themselves on the streets, locked in the wards, six feet under, or missing? Who's life are you willing to sacrifice on the altar of "Well, they obviously couldn't handle it!". Haven't you seen how many people's lives have been fucked up by drugs, booze or just plain stupidity? A hell of a lot of people by anyones measure. They're out there, living in the apartment next door, walking past us everyday, and we avoid them, fear them, exempt them from our more perfect lives. We treat them as human waste! Jen asked, and I have to say, "Jen, man, don't look for positives with drugs. Don't say you feel lucky and will be one who can hack it. If you THINK you're mature enough to be a casual user, BE mature enough and look for the billions of other things out there that doesn't treat your life like a crap game!" I've seen it. You've seen it. I couldn't live easy if I wasn't straight up with Jen! She deserves honesty, and too many people have taken the liars road that led them away from the rest of their lives. I think she deserves a fair cop! If you want to be mellow, try eating a tomato right off the vine that you've grown. Bucket of water to wash it off with and a shaker of salt. Cook someone a meal. Anything else.

 

you know today was the first day I wasnt able to smoke at all in about... ummm 3 months... and It wasn't as bad as i thought it would be, I compare it to say... T.V.


I love T.V. (well... some of it)






better example movies


I love movies... I usually watch one a day, It's my art of choice (next to music) but anyway...

If I couldnt have movies for a few days it would suck... sure I'd make it but it would suck...


same with pot...

but people dont tell me I'm addicted to movies...


I think the reason addiction in pot is brought up so much is because it alters state of mind...
It's a substance and we've been taught about it's parrells for years but it's no more addictive than anything else in the world....


some people no doubt are hopelessly addicted to pot... but the same can be said about


chocolate, T.V., painkillers of any kind, caffeine, sex, Computer and anything else like that...

everyone has some sort of item or activity that they associate themselves with... for some people it's pot... so what?

If someone can indulge in an activity responsibley... why not?

I LOVE pot and smoke it quite a bit... but not to the extent that it controls me... I went all day without pot and still had fun... It's just... I like pot more than... well not having any

anyway I like weed but could live without it... But if i dont have to go without it... why go without it?

 

A friend of mine got caught with a gram... had to pay 5000 bucks and donate 400 bucks to a charity and had to serve 100 hours community service.... what the fuck it that?




what the fuck is that?


i thought....


what the fuck is that?



at the end of the day... Is she a criminal?






did she do anything to anybody that caused emotional or physical harm?

did she disturb the peace?

did she put anybody's life in danger?

did she destroy any public or private property?

did she offend anybody?

did she endager her own life?

who is the person who was negatively affected by her posession of a small amount of weed?

where's the victom?

Where's the crime?




So where's the crime?

she was just rolling a joint in the PASSENGER (i felt it was neccesary to emphasize passenger) side of a parked car in an underground parking complex


and yet she was treated like the lowest scum on the earth... just because her lifestyle of choice has not yet been recognized or tolerated...


not to mention the fact that the local newspaper did an article about how terrible it was that she had weed and how this kind of thing could happen

what kind of fucking humiliation that is!

so this teenaged girl has had her whole life gone shitty cause everyone overreacted

Oh hide the kids the dopers are in town... to rape and pillage and SMOKE! run!


what the fuck it that?

i wish everyone would just grow the fuck up

 

I fully note and consider all of your points and you've made some good ones... but the key is... this doesnt happen to everyone...


everyone who's gonna have a downfall will have their downfall

be it

hookers, or drugs or booze or gambling or fast food or T.V., etc.

any serious addiction to ANYTHING will result in only negative side affects...


but plenty of people can responsibly use any of the above things
and make it...


people who fuck up... fuck up

why should their mistakes dictate anyone else's life...

I've seen more people die young from heart disease related to candy than people dying from drugs

yet candy is still advertised all over T.V.


EVERYTHING IS ADDICTIVE TO SOMEBODY


but with candy it's easier to say "oh, they just cant handle candy... they've got an addictive personality"

but with pot... since mind altering actually takes place people can than say

"what is this doing to their brain?, THis substance Is changing them!"


the key is to have a medium...

I spend anywhere from 5 to 10 bucks a day on pot


some people might say that's nuts...

but today I didnt buy any pot... and i ended spending 10 bucks at the impulse racks in the convienent store...

I have no more to show for that now than I would If i had bought pot
and I'm still out 10 bucks...

I fully thought about the amount of money I spend on pot and came to the conclusion that If i cut candy out of my diet I can afford my "habit"

so I set aside 10 bucks from my pay every day for dope the rest is put in a box and I'm saving for cd's movies games and whatever else I feel like having...

Now i've cut waaaaaay down on the candy and as a result have lost lots of weight


all summer, I've been sleeping by day... working by late afternoon and hanging out with friends all night...

I'm having a great summer, have money to spare, have enough dope to have fun with, losing weight and i feel great


I'm not saying that smokin pot will make your life great

but it turned out to be the happy medium in my life that kinda holds it all together... and hey I needed something to take the place of my band that ditched me... my new hobby is weed... so what?


I still talk to people i dont know and say hello, I still do reasonably well in school... I still have all my friends, I still have music. and movie making. I still am nice to most people i meet and have a decent moral structure.


and the truth is...
if the nice old lady i see outtown and i have frequent discussions with knew i smoked... she'd probably never talk to me again and why?

cause weed is key to all evil


I dont rape, pillage, steal, riot, or insult...

but because of this whole social issue with pot I'm a criminal... so sue me...















I guess Im a fuckin criminal





I'd also like to point out that i dont encourage drug use at all especially not hard drugs... which I like to discourage I just want people to do their own thing... and if it's pot than all the power to you...

 

Learn a little logic. If 'everything' is addictive, the term becomes meaningless.

 

learn to read the whole fucking sentence


I said

Everything is addictive to somebody


meaning, that for every thing we indulge in or take part in can be addictive to somebody somewhere on the planet


just like pretty much everything in the world can be an allergen to at least one person

 

Really? My psych textbook seems to define an addictive substance as something with physical withdrawl syndromes, increasing tolerance, etc.

 

I wasnt talking only about substance was I?

addiction can be to more than just substance

any activity or thing done in excess, and without ability to stop is an addiction
right?
or do I need to use another word?


p.s. sorry bout the cussin... I just get intimidated when someone questions my integrity

 

You're thinking of habit-forming.

Clinical terms vs. joual.

And i never questioned your integrity - just your intelligence.

 

dammit





well for the record... I've never been good at expressing thoughts through words...














I was on a roll

 

best uv all the uder addicting drugz.

 

Darkside - Thanks for the answer! You say some things that really get to the root of a lot of the culture of drugs and why people use them. However, I have to say it's not necessarily in your favor. I'm just a regular Joe, no title other than Being, Human type, 1 ea., so please take what I say for what it's worth! Your approach to the question Jen asks and how drugs affect peoples lives legally and physically seems to be summed up by your statement of, "who cares"! That's it? Pretty casual attitude for someone to live by or to decide whether or not to use drugs. If that's your best defense for pot usage, or doing anythings else for that matter, then you don't give much thought to anything you should be giving serious consideration to. Not meant to be harsh, but a lot of people out there fall into that same behavior. My band dumped me..God, I need pot to hold me together! Doesn't say much does it? But it comes from, well, you said it..it comes from not really caring. It's hard for me to turn my life over to that kind of thinking. I would want better for you. Life is deep, requires a hell of a lot of commitment and is a harsh mistress, but the rewards can be pretty great. Hope you will take the time to seek another happy medium that isn't drugs, booze or anything else that requires you gamble with your mind or body. I'm into the film making thing myself. The social issue that you say makes you a criminal isn't the point, it's the fact that you've made drugs a key componant of your life and underline it with "who cares", THAT'S what makes it a social issue. Hope you see my point. Keep on being a good, moral friend to people. Weed ain't key to all evil....wasting one's life is!!!

 

time traveler man all the person is asking about is weed not booze and that jazz and time traveler u should listen to a couple sessions of NORML radio and ull see the real good sides of marijuana man. u can find NORML radio on itunes or if u search NORML podcasts on myspace or on the norml website man.

 

Cannabis is not "drugs", cannabis is cannabis. Let's not group everything together for impact, bro. Heroin may ruin lives more often than not, but weed? The most negative factor to think about would be the legal system.

Marijuana can be consumed in ways that do not harm the lungs, such as vaporization or eating. As read in a document, THC helps keep lungs from being messed up badly by smoke (carbon), acting as a bronchial dilator and cleansing agent. Some physicians claim that the smoke may irritate the throat and lungs at worst. As someone else posted, marijuana has not been linked to cancer and may even inhibit the growth of cancer cells.

Who really is to decide what a waste of life is? If delving into deep thought by consuming a "sacred plant" is not right for you, don't do it. If we all lived the same lifestyle, it would make for a very boring world.

People suffering from schizophrenia should not use marijuana for the following reason:
The schizophrenic brain does not use or control serotonin correctly. Marijuana leads the brain to produce more serotonin than usual, which often leads to more frequent or more extreme delusions. A friend of mine had this problem.

 

life, food an we r creatures uv habit, easily addicted to both bad an guud habitz, stay free an break yoh worst habbitz, like stay unattached to yoh dumb azz ego head tripz,
never keep duin duh same ting, over an over, even breathin iz borin.