This question always comes up when I trip...

haha nice story

 

ppl dont seem to understand that lsd and other psychedelics arent about dissing the govt and society, rebellion, forming communes etc. psychedelics are about a pure form of mental and spiritual energy a personal evolution of the mind not trying to change the world more instead trying to understand the world we live in by experiencing every possible perspective of it lsd might give ppl personal answers relevant to there situation in life but when it comes to the universe and the infinity thereof it gives us more questions than answers for ex. which is better pirates or ninjas the mere mention of this question to someone whos never tried lsd would sound completely idiotic but throw psychadelics in the mix of your mind and anything is possible. true psychonaughts use these drugs to widen their perceptions not to come to conclusions we could spend eternitys trying to escape or change society and it may work for a while but in the end thousands of years of human nature will be triumphant you cant change anyone else only yourself. and there is no place in the world which you could live your life forever and not be affected by society lsd should rather help someone accept that there is a mind controlling society all around them but it will not control inside them in their own mind they will be free or more free than those who fall victim to tv ads and a closed mind. all in all find content and true freedom inside yourself whether your in society on an island w/ no ppl or in a prison cell. it is there you just have to find it thats wat psychadelics are all about

 

plur?

 

whynot-= nicely said, i Agree, it only changes urself... and is made for u to progres father, be more intelligent... but many people use it differently... Only you choose your life.

 

What you've said is kind of contradictory; if it's about a PERSONAL revolution of the mind, who are YOU to tell OTHERS what psychedelics are about? By the "revolution of the mind" line, psychedelics are about whatever you get from them, revolting from what you've "known" in the past. Then you go on to contradict this. Stop, or I will be forced, to stab you.

 

Whynot, you're misunderstanding what I meant...it's not that I want to avoid society as in people, activities, food, and the good stuff...I just mean, avoid society as in not having to work haha

But not the same as retiring, cause retiring in the normal sense means you've worked a long time blah blah blah...I'm just meaning, retiring, but with a lot less money because I don't really care for it

Plus, who's to say I'd actually do it?

And I agree with the others who said that psychedelics are used however you want, there's no set, so right no wrong way to use them...

Oh, and with the way the government and society is going, why shouldn't we diss it?

Everyday people lose sense of their morality in exchange for money, teenagers bring children into the world completely unprepared, war is waged on countries unneccessarily, values have been lost, racism isn't dead by a landslide, neither is biggotry, there's still tons of problems with society, and they're growing everyday, not waning.

It's 3 am and I just woke up from sleeping...so sorry if my post misses some points/half ass covers them or whatever...I'm exhausted haha

 

If you can reduce your dependency on money then dependency on the organisations who control the money is also decreased. The more you reduce your needs the more options for breaking free from the loop start to appear.

Here's an article I came across "How to drop out" - the focus is more how to manage your needs with minimal money and thinking about what's really important. I'll be honest - I don't have the guts to go quite this far (yet ;-)

http://ranprieur.com/essays/dropout.html

One line in the article really rang bells for me - "Unlike many outsiders and radicals, I never had to go through a stage where I realized that our whole society is insane -- I've known that as long as I can remember."

 

i never said "revolution of the mind" i said "evolution of the mind" which is a totally different context. i know it was a simple mistake and perhaps some of wat i said was contradictory but please read before you stab me

and i wishiwasahippy if all you want is not to work you could always try burglarizing houses or robbing armoured cars but if you dont want to get killed or break the law and make enough money to still live in society your out of luck. ppl have been looking for that since their has been societies. your best bet would be to live off the land until society eliminates any land thats available to live off of without their permission and paying taxes

and its true that psychadelic drugs dont come with a how to manual but in my opinion their are respectful ways and disrespectful ways to use them ancient shamans certainly wouldnt approve of someone eating two pounds of mushrooms and going on a mass murdering spree. they are meant by most respectful users to be an introspective tool by which you learn about yourself. how ever i am not the guru of psychadelics and am not all knowing so my opinion could be wrong just remember yours could be too and have an open mind

and i never said not to diss society i happen to agree that it sucks all im saying is why would that be in the lsd forum

 

lol I was joking about the stabbing. Actually I'm an idiot and stabbings are how idiots cope with others who have different ideas than them. I was a little tipsy when I read that so that's why I read revolution instead of evolution. Revolution of the mind evolution of the mind sort of leave you with the same product in the end, a new outlook on things. STAB STAB :sunglasse

 

I dont think they are meant for anything...They are on this earth and you do what you want with them...

Its your own individual mind passed through whatever you call what lsd does to thought process, fractalize it, I dont know ...Everything fusions with it, songs, ideas whatever, shhould it make sense or not...It can ennahnce insight, blur it or worsen psychosis...Different strokes for different folks...

It can result in something interesting when taken by some insightful or creative folks ...but its just an obstacle for some others

the unaltered mind is a fragile gem.

 

well it all depends on your perspective of it of course theres no right wrong or indifferent when it comes to anything in this universe. a microwave could be used as a tool for heating food, or as a weapon to throw at pirates, or a thing to have sex with its all in your perception and wat you want to do with it but if it was disrespected by being used to kill ppl the society we live in would outlaw microwaves. and more ppl would add this to their list of "this is why society sucks" and almost half of the ppl saying this would either be the ones that made it an illegal possesion or the ones killing ppl with microwaves. now lsd in my opinion should be used to widen our perceptions giving us not better but a more fully perceptual look at all these inquiries conflicts and so forth. now like i said this is only my opinion which is one of infinite perceptions and thus neither right or wrong. then again lsd might just be a means of turning you into an imbocile who rambles about the coming microwave prohibition. in the end a lot of the reasons these drugs are illegal is b/c ppl think they are just their to be used for any reason at will b/c idiots will use them like charles manson did to brainwash ppl into killing ppl.when you look at it a lot of societies problems are caused by us and we bitch about them instead of changing it i like the quote someone on these forums has that says "be the change you want to see in the world" i have more to say but everyones probably tired of reading and wants to stab me and i cant type anymore...

peace n love

 

*now lsd in my opinion should be used to widen our perceptions giving us not better but a more fully perceptual look at all these inquiries conflicts and so forth*

You can also use meditation, much healthier in my opinion...LSD is quick and efficent for this kind of thing but it also fucks alot of people up

I used to believe that it could be useful...downside...Gives me good ideas but fucks me up indisposed to communicate em to normal peep...

 

very true its not for everyone certainly not ppl who wish to use it disrespectfully whether its right or wrong and it isnt the only way to go about this or even the most efficient way if one has a closed mind already dosing them wont likely make them totally different which is a widespread myth. meditation is a very good way to open ones mind and channel their energy but this also takes a person who is open to recieving the lessons the experience has to offer much like lsd and other forms of spirituality you have to find wat works for you like you said different strokes for different folks.