i want to know if there is any DMT containing plants which can be smoked to recieve an effect without an extraction of the alkaloids. if there is how strong of an effect is it and wat are your personal experiences with it thanks for all replies peace
no. most plants contain a fraction of a percentage (w/w) of n'n-dmt per gram of dried material. It's highly unlikely that you could smoke enough raw material within 30 seconds, your lungs wouldn't let you, neither would metabolism. snuffing ground yopo seeds is another story...
ok well then could someone point me to the simplest extraction method to get smokeable dmt from a plant source thanks
You could smoke yopo seeds and get an effect. Just read on erowid. There are plenty of reports of yopo seeds being smoked and recieving significant effects.
The only problem with yopo seeds is that they also contain 5-Meo-DMT and Bufotenine, which can be pretty unpleasant and are in higher percentages than N,N-DMT.
is there any way to get more n,n-dmt than the other alkaloids without doing an all out extraction or at least get rid of the bufotenine. just a simple preparation if not wats the best way to smoke them to get the most intense effects and how many should i smoke. i just dont like the idea of snorting so much icky ground plant material
If you smoke them or snort them it is best to heat them up in a pan on the stove until they pop. Then they will be dry/brittle enough to smoke. Do this if you decide to snort them too. And also if you snort them, make sure to mix them with edible lime powder or baking soda to lessen the burning sensation. Just do some more research on erowid. They will tell you the best preparation method for your preferred ingestion method.
here's the deal. find you some phalaris grass (preferably the reed canarygrass), pulverize the shit, and let it soak in hot everclear. after the alcohol has evaporated (let it sit, don't boil it off), scrape the gummy crap left over, that's a slew of alkaloids that WILL make you trip (assuming you get enough material...I'm talking about half an ounce of dried grass). it's as easy as that.
ick.... my phalaris grass attempts were worthless... prolly better luck (with crude ethanolic extractions) with chakruna, chaliponga, mhrb, or D. illinoiensis (or mebbe D. leptolobus...) ymmv, eh?
did you do multiple extractions? most attempts will be fruitless unless you extract a few times. and forget trying to extract from dried chacruna (need a shitload of dried leaves to get anything), that's VERY inefficient (believe me, I thought of doing it too, from my own plant); might as well make the hoasca brew. chaliponga would probably be better, D. illinoisis may be a good starting material too. mhrb is probably the best route, multiple extractions for best yield.
Well i heard that you can start with chaliponga. pulverize 30 grams, soak in a mixture of water and Muriatic acid. Ph should be around 2.5. After 24 hours strain off mixture and save the liquid. Re-soak the material and strain 2 more times. Combine the liquid from the three strainings and dispose of plant material. Pass liquid through filters (you can use cotton and funnels) Next apply naptha to the liquid. The naptha layer will stay on top. At this point the Dmt is not soluable in naptha, but many of the things you want to get rid of are. Draw off and dispose of the naptha layer. Do this at least one more time. Apply Naptha again. Then with the naptha still in the container add a mixture of water and lye to bring the mixture to a PH of between 9.5 and 10.5. This should cause the Dmt to change into its freebase form, which will then migrate into the naptha layer. Stir the solution for a good while. An emulsion will form and you will have to wait at least a day if not more for this layer to settle. Draw off the naptha layer and keep it. Add more naptha to the original mixture. You will probably need to add more base at this point. Again an emulsion will form. When this settles draw off the naptha, combine with the other saved layer of naptha. Now let it evaporate. From what i've been told, depending on how well you do, there will be Dmt left behind, pure enough to be smoked to achieve effects, of course only in countries where such a thing is legal. be sure to use glass containers, no cheap plastic or aluminum. Lye, muriatic acid, and naptha are all very dangerous especially when they are in the same room. Violent thermal reactions can occur when improperly mixing the materials involved. Beware of toxic fumes. make contingency plans in the event of a spill of one or more of the substances involved. or better yet don't even try it, learn about Ayahuasca instead, she is medicine.
