Okay. I'm not quite sure what I'm talking about here. Like, how easy is it to just... go to Canada? Say you're AWOL or something. Would that make it hard to go to college there or get a job -- or even get in, for that matter? Basically, would it be a good idea or would you be a fugitive forever? I know nothing about this. lol help.
depends, where ya from? getting in is rediculously easy if your from a developed country, staying is no problem, canadian imagration seems to only prey on helpless refugees getting a job with cash under the table, not a problem if you don't mind seasonal work and hard labour college, a little more tricky, they ask for lots of id, school records, etc etc but even if you want to come here legit, it's real easy too, so no need to be sneaky
I'm from the US. Would someone that was AWOL be considered a refugee? I heard something about these two guys that are AWOL in Canada and are going to trial to be considered refugees so they don't get sent back to the US. Or something like that... I may have it screwed up. Anyone heard about this? Thanks.
I think your talking about the two iraq draft dodgers in Canada that made thier cases public. Pvt Jeremy Pinset I think it one of them, can't remember the other one, and yes they are set to appear in court to see if they qualify for refugee status. Trust me, if your an American there's no problem with comming to Canada and going incognito, but like I said before it rediculously easy to come and live here legit too.
I don't know enough about the laws to be able to say for sure. But during vietnam there were hundreds of draft dodgers or AWOL soldiers that came to Canada. I don't think that getting into Canada would be a problem. Don't count on ever getting back into the states though.
actually there were like thousands there are even a few tiny communities founded by draft dodgers scattered about the country, mostly in BC
Thanks everyone. I hope it's as easy as you say. I'm not worried about getting back in the states... don't want to be here anyway. Oh yes. One more question. lol Would the fact that I'm not 18 yet (and parentless) make a difference?
well so long as you don't have social workers or anything like that breathing down your neck then you should be ok
just wanted to add that if you are in canada iligally and get cought or deported, it can make re-entry a pain in ass, even for americans. all the info you need is this government web site http://www.cic.gc.ca/
i don't think canada is supporting the draft dodgers this time around...but if your under 18, how could you be conscripted? at anyrate, you can start your own identity with a fake drivers liscense. once you have one of those it's a lot easier to build up an identity around it.
this has got to be close to an illegal topic... so hypothetically, i think the key to doing this would be to find someone of similar age who has died, and use their name and sin# to become a tax paying , loan getting, college going citizen, but you'd have to use that name for ever.. which might be hard on the head a bit. Not to mention youre gonna have to do some smooth talking to get that info. as for making up a name... youd have to get some paper with your new name on it, then smooth talk a dmv agent into letting you take your drivers licence exam.. very tough without a birth certificate and social insurance # - those are your two key bits of paper that would make every thing easy. the third being a drivers licence or provincial dmv id card. What you have going for you is that your young.. i imagine it can only get harder to do this type of thing the older you get. people wont think twice if you are 18 and have no paper trail.. but even if your 20 or 21, then eyebrows might get raised.. and i think a person could get farther in a small town on this mission - say 5 or 6 thousand.. it has all the sevices required but the people are more likely to cut you a break if everything isnt perfectly in line.. and cash work is easier to get usually. i think alberta would be the province to try, after that bc but in small town bc jobs are harder to find.. good luck to any crazy mofo that decides to try something like that, and make sure you have your plan nailed down before you go talking to the government agencies, because like my man said before me, if you are caught and they find out you're a us citizen living here illegaly, you'll probably get banned - so if the cops come... run far run fast. i in no way reccomend anyone to do any of the crazy behavior i just speculated on
lol. Thanks everyone. Maybe I'll try to come to Canada legally... or perhaps apply for the refugee thing. It now seems that there are probably easier ways to get out of the army... lol thanks.
