there is no free energy

Discussion in 'The Future' started by freakon, Jul 31, 2006.

  1. freakon

    freakon Member

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    edgar cayce, a mystic from before, said that he could see why the atlantean/lemurian civilsation had collapsed :a big flood catastrophe, had destroyde many major places on earth and many people died. But even if it was a seemingly natural catastrophe, it was CAUSED by human overexploitation
    i dont know the details, but these high civilisations had these extremely advanced techniques where sun energies could be exploited to give free energy to their energy hungry lifestyles/technologies.....
    reminds me a bit of todays sick energy craze, where the west just indulges in a lifestyle that is not SUSTAINABLE! its the same problem as it was 10 000 yrs ago (or whenever it did happen), reminds me of climate changes, reminds me of tsunamies, etc, etc.......
    technique is hepful, sure, but you have to start with yourself and your habits, NOW, TODAY..... and that, you can't do with any technique, you need to put out a personal effort.... it is abslotely possible. people can stop smoking, so peole could start changing their habits
    peace and love
     
  2. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    well it didn't exactly happen quite the way in myth and legend. though it is a fun legend.

    one possible seed of truth in it is that minoen crete was quite tecnologicly advanced for its time, and disaster did strike them in the form of a convergence of volcanic erruptions and a hostile greek navy.

    but at any rate THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 'FREE' energy IS absolutely correct.
    both in the tangable objective sense, and in, what you were perhapse more speaking in terms of, the social, psycho, spiritual sense as well.

    what people do individualy is pretty indeterminate other then for the individual themselves doing it, but collectively, that defacto statistical consensus, is of course a matter of incentives, and these of course, in turn, a consiquence, again collectively, statisticly, of the priorities we actualy live by.

    this is that connection between priorities and probabilities i keep talking about, that has more to do with what we actualy experience (in our surroundings anyway) then whatever nontangable beings might happen to exist, let alone what anyone may happen to believe about them.

    scapegoating tecnology, is still like scapegoating anything else, it is still in a sense putting the onus on someone or everyone other then our own individual selves.

    tecnology itself is subject to that force of priorities determining probabilities.
    a symptom rather then a bacterium.

    and people (and societies, cultures, idiologies, what have you) don't HAVE to be environmentaly careless to enjoy at least some of the many comforts and conveniences.

    but priorities, and awairness of priorities, and their REAL OBJECTIVE consiquences ARE important to be awaire of, and CAN be choosen on the basis of the kind of world we DO want to live in, and i mean TAKING INTO ACCOUNT environmental realities.

    wind, solar and hydro, in combination, CAN (and will when there isn't anything else and that day will come too) produce as much energy as we really NEED for such things as refrigerators, and a few simple pleasures like this internet.

    but the use of combustion to generate energy and propell transportation will have to be replaced by other methods if we don't wan't our own species to eventualy face an environment no longer conducive to its own survival.

    and of course the level of energy use, and the level of emotional attatchment to that level of energy use, can and will, of neccessity, have to be reduced over all, to no more then can be provided by noncombustive sources.

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