Saudi Arabia rejects ceasefire, Go on Israel (video)

Shambhala Peace
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Wa Alaikum Shambhala Peace
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Thank you very much
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I won't. Amen. Thank you for your concern.
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We shouldn't forget, Were there reasons and who was the reason etc, isn't our topic anyway
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Don't worry and you know it is better to focus on the current sensitive affairs and conditions and the Biggest and real Problems. If you noticed when I joined these forums, there was no intention to write political threads, but some replies and members here showed me what I think their ignorance or lack of knowledge about some issues, there are facts which I think everyone has to know about besides other reasons and that compelled me to create such threads. I do read newspapers 'cause I do care about other ppl from other countries.
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Amen
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I studied Islam, what I learned is that I should care about others and help them, not just those who believe in the book, Qur: …if anyone saved life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind, Quraan: The good deed and the evil deed cannot be equal. Rebel (the evil) with one which is better (i.e. Allah orders the faithful believers to be patient at the time of anger, and to excuse those who treat them badly) then verily he, between whom and you there was enmity, (will become) as though he was a close friend. But none is granted it (the above quality) except those who are patient (i.e. who exercise patience and self restraint)… [060:008] Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.
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but when anyone wants to fight And kill Muslims unjustly then Muslims shouldn't turn their other cheek, 'cause doing so encourages injustice, Muslims should defend themselves, Muslims (male Muslims) can marry Jewish women and have a happy family.
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The Prophet was asked, “Messenger of Allah, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?” He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.} Narrated in Saheeh Muslim, #2244, and Saheeh Al-Bukhari, #2466 {Show mercy to those on earth, and Allah will show mercy to you}Narrated in Al-Tirmizi, #1924, and Abu-Dawood, #4941
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? Does that (unbalanced state) made me unjust? If so, what was that?
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[16.90] verily, Allah enjoins Justice
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[005:008] O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Well Acquainted with what you do.
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[060:008] .. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.
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And with you in all your steps, Amen =)
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*Peace and love*
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Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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Peace-Phoenix
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True, but in these verses, Allah is talking about what happened at the time, about previous incidents,
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It goes without saying that not all of them are dangerous, there are such peaceful Jews, may Allah bless them and protect them, Amen, they protested against the current war and joined other demonstrations, I posted some photos for them in this thread and I believe you share me the same view, and those peaceful Jews may Allah bless them explained the Torah and Talmud's view regarding the holy land , here are some links:
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http://www.nkuk.org/
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Jew Against Zionism .com
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Jews Not Zionists .org
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Land of Peace
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*Peace and love*
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Yours Sincerely,
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Cat Stevens
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Columbo​

We are stronger dear brother, we won't give up, maybe we will be the inspiration for other ppl who will succeed someday when they will add more spices to our ideas and struggling, as I told ya in this thread, to make a real change it is important to make others really care about other ppl and let them know why do they have to care if they don't, read about the previous ppl, how they were alone or have few supporters in the beginning , read how many times they failed yet the continue to do what they started of course some of them succeeded it​

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I Will never accept that.​

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My dear brother, there are other advantages, you know e.g. when the Palestinian ppl see ppl from other nations and religions protesting against wars and injustice, believe me that means a lot to them, it is better than nothing, they feel that other ppl didn't forget them, that at least give them hope, please don't give up my brother, and as I said, sometimes the results which we are working for may come after a while, (long while). Myself, I will go on.
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No problem but As I said to our Sister:​

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To All those who care​

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*Peace and love*
Yours Sincerely,
Cat Stevens
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But would God change his mind? I'm not sure that a being that is timeless, infallable and all knowing, would represent two different opinions in two different eras of our linear calendar. On the other hand, if you look at the religious texts not as the word of God, but as interpretations of the word of God by fallable mortals, then there might be a reason for the discrepancy. But regardless of theological differences, I share your outrage at what is happening, and also your understanding that there are peaceful voices on both sides calling for some sanity.​

 

Peace-Phoenix​

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Did you read the Torah -OT-Bible, plus they are not the nation of God anymore. Read the Bible.​

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The bible is corrupted by the hand of men, by adding, deleting and changing the verses,​

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*Peace and love*
Yours Sincerely,
Cat Stevens​

 

You make a convincing case, but why do you say the Bible is more accurate than the Torah? That they (I assume you mean Jews) are not the nation of God anymore?

 

Trust me Catstevens, you would never be in my eyes unjust. I care about you because I know that you have a wonderful message to help combat ignorance regarding Islam. I may never respond to your other posts, but I enjoy reading them very much.

I appreciate you responding, I hope you continue with your message.


I hope that Allah blesses you through your journey's.
Peace,
~Debbie

 

The problem being that the iraqis and the palestinians arent being attacked for being muslim, they are being attacked for their oil and land - these are political not religious wars -
the two are very different

 

Peace-Phonex​

Did I?​

Actually the bible = The scriptures of Old and New Testaments​

If you will read the bible, you will understand this, here is a summary:​

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Campbell34 ( is A Christian member) +plus it goes with out saying that the bible is corrupted (by deleting, adding and even changing some verses or words and verbs in some verses)+ plus Jews rejected Jesus (peace be upon him) and the Christians changed the law of God (Paul)​

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*Peace and love*
Yours Sincerely,
Cat Stevens​

 

Shambhala Peace​

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These are very kind words , thank you very much dear sister, I do appreciate your care and concerns, thank you very much, may Allah bless you, peace and love be with in all your steps, Amen, my deepest sincere best wishes, have a nice, peaceful and faithful day, enjoy Allah's creation =)​

Yours Sincerely,
Cat Stevens
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Columbo
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Ok read it this way: but when anyone wants to fight And kill Muslims unjustly or want to invade their lands, steal their properties etc, then Muslims shouldn't turn their other cheek, 'cause doing so encourages injustice, Muslims should defend themselves , their lands & properties.
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*Peace and love*
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Yours Sincerely,
Cat Stevens
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Any god that I would want to believe in would never justify a war, for any reason. And the Saudi's... well the majority of the bombers 09/11 were Saudis, is the US at war with them. You work it out.

They've sold out. They may be arabs, but they sold out in the past, and if I was an arab, just because they share my ancestory, I wouldn't trust them. They are more closely related to the Bush family and the neo-cons now than they are to the arab world that is fighting for it's independence.

 

Hi gardener ​

I read a theory which says: (briefly) Osama is an agent what he did he interpreted Jihad, and the Qurannic verses wrongly, out of context, innocent Muslims believe his interpretations and they think this is JIHAD! get it! 9/11 was it an inside job? Allah knows best.
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Not at war with the Saudi government​

*Peace and love*
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Yours Sincerely,
Cat Stevens
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No we aren't at war with them they hold the key to the oil, and eventual rule of the middle east.

Are they against a cease fire, because the US told them to be? That's the question. The Neo-Cons are also against a cease fire. They don't care how many innoncent arab lives are lost as long as they gain control.

 

gardener

And that indicates what? when they follow and obey US? Poodles! Are they really MUSLIMS!

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Yours Sincerely,
Cat Stevens
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It indicates that they are wealthy, powerful people influenced only by the promise of more money and influence.

Poodle? I've known several poodles with more integrity. Don't lower the reputation of an honest breed of dog by comparing them.

 

gardener​

Promise from...and at the expense of ...​

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with more integrity!, poodles with integrity, could it be? why they became poodles? to gain what and at the expense of what?​

Dogs are loyal creatures =)​

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*Peace and love*
Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens
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Yes some creatures on this earth aren't driven by greed. They didn't become poodles, they were born poodles. They had no choice. But I think they had a choice in how they treated others, and those that I knew were intelligent and compassionate, even though they weren't human. They were true loyal friends.

 

gardener​

No my dear brother, They can change, They have the choice, many ppl were born poor, Today they are rich. They have Choices.​

Compassionate and loyal to some ppl (They choose those ppl) Every Evil is Kind in deep, Some of those evil ppl need some one to restore their kindness, their humanity, sometimes a sincere smile do it, sometimes a song or maybe a child =)​

Believe children have their own unique magic =)​

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*Peace and love*
Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens
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