why doesn't anyone care about the sharks?

Discussion in 'Endangered Species and Ecosystems' started by stickinote07, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. stickinote07

    stickinote07 Member

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    dolphin-safe tuna. im all for it.
    but do you realize that when a tuna boat catches a shark, they do what they used to do with dolphins. they throw it back in. i dont eat tuna, im a vegitarian, but if people are going to be eating this stuff, they need to know what it is they're eating.
    an avid shark lover, sharkfishing, comercial fishing, and expecially trophy fishing make me sick to my stomach. such a beautiful creature as a shark deserves unlimited respect, and extreme help. by killing and fishing such large quantaties not only are we catching sharks and throwing them back dead or worse, hanging them as trophys, we're also depleting their food sources.
    excess.. thats all comercial and sport fishermen know.

    input? links? advice?
    ,asia
     
  2. stickinote07

    stickinote07 Member

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    no way. they're as beautiful as any other creature in the ocean. and just as valuable to that ecosystem. sharks aren't agressive animals unless provoked. its just a fact. by listening to what everyone else tells you about them is just buying into someone trying to portray them as some monster. im aware that by telling you this i am myself, trying to portray them as these awesome creatures (which they are! ;) ) but i'd really like it if people just got out and formed their own opinions based on research, observation, history.

    ,asia
     
  3. Tipo Sensuale

    Tipo Sensuale Senior Member

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    sharks are dolphins with teeth.
     
  4. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Dolphins have teeth of their own. They are carnivores. That's why they hang around tuna flocks.

    Their agression (or lack of it) is a part of what they are and their place in the ocean (or ecosystem if you prefer). The world needs its agressive creatures as much as it needs any. I'm not disagreeing with your characterization of sharks, just pointing out that "don't hurt them, they're not agressive" is the path to outdoor zoos rather than preserving nature.

    Menaces to who or what?
     
  5. aphrodite_pretty

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    If I had had a better head for the sciences, I would've been an elasmobranch biologist. Since I failed chemistry miserably (then went on to marry -- and divorce -- a chemist) I remain stuck studying sharks from the sidelines. I really don't have any further information to provide, but I just wanted to give you another voice to cheer you on.
     
  6. Tipo Sensuale

    Tipo Sensuale Senior Member

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    Ok crocodiles with teeth then.
     
  7. BodyElectric

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    Why do they throw them back? If it's caught and going to die anyways, why not use it so that it's death isn't completely in vain?
     
  8. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    Ask Steven Speilburg why people don't care about sharks. Ask Flipper why we like Dolphins.

    People have been terrified of sharks since Man first started sailing the seas. They were seen as monsters... the mythology has stuck.

    Dolphins don't attack surfers, which is all the media reports about sharks.
     
  9. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    sorry, double post
     
  10. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Its a tuna boat, only tuna is of any use to them.
     
  11. freediver

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    You have no idea what you are talking about. Do you realize that if it wasn't for the conservation efforts of SPORT fishermen fighting the commercial fishermen there would not be a single fish left in the ocean. You think some small tree-hugging groups would have stood a chance against the commercial fishermen, please give me a break. Sport fishermen are the ones who are at the forefront of the conservation efforts for sportfish. I am an avid spearfisherman and I teach everyone that I show how to dive to only take the big fish that will make you feel happy and feed your family and leave all of the other ones. I get one big fish in a day and i'm happy, then I pass on plenty of other large edible fish afterwards and just enjoy the beauty of the underwater world which i would do anything to defend against its exploitation and destruction. If it wasn't for sport fishermen you would have no ocean to bitch about.
    On the other hand I hate commercial fishermen and they will deplete the ocean of its last endangered inhabitants to fill thier pockets with cash if it was up to them. The have no interest in preserving anything for their own enjoyment or for future generations like sportfishermen do. Do you realize that if it wasn't for sportfishing most billfish species would be extinct by now? I'm glad they aren't because swimming with a bluemarlin was probably the most magnificent sight i've ever experienced in nature.


    To the poster of this thread you say sharks aren't agressive unless provoked? let me ask you how many 10ft+ sharks you have swam with in your life? I have had totally unprovoked sharks charge me and the only thing that kept me from being bitten into shreds was a speargun jabbed into thier face. most of the time they just ignore you other times they see you, you are smaller than them, and they want to eat you, its as simple as that. But I agree that sharks are a critical part of the oceans food chain and somthing really has to be done to preserve thier numbers. As one who has witnessed them firsthand in the wild I must say they are truly beautiful animals perfectly designed and graceful.
     
  12. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    he's right. anglers are leading the fight against open-net fish farms in the skeena river.

    but really, its the dolphin that gives tuna that extra bit of zip. like sea-veal.
     
  13. free2fly

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    lol...
    yeah, the novel/movie JAWS was actually inspired by a real series of attacks that happened in the early 1900's in a river in New Jersey.

    http://www.njscuba.net/biology/sw_fish_sharks_inshore.html

    Scroll down that and theres some details on it .... kinda interesting
     
  14. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    I didn't mean to impart that I personally believed sharks to be monsters... was saying that back in the day, they were seen as being monsters.

    I have also done a lot of diving. Have had several incounters with sharks, and have never had a problem with them. Granted, these weren't GW sharks... would probably piss my pants if face to teeth with one of those, even though I know they aren't actually the most dangerous. Aren't Tiger sharks considered more bloodthirsty than GWs?

    Free2Fly- I saw the documentary on the shark attacks that inspired the book that inspired the movie. I said ask Speilburg because he was the one that brought it to "life", so to speak, for so many people. AHHHHHH!!!!
     
  15. Woodpoppies

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    I am scared of sharks .... like i wouldnt go diving with them or anything but I care about them ... they have more rights to be here then us. Idk thats my opinion ...LOl
     
  16. tnborn

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    People fear what they do not understand. Actually sharks are intelligent, and they have rods and cones in their eyes. They have evolved through the prehictoric era.

    Sharks are killed for their fins(China and Asia).
    Many numbers have declined due to overfishing and illegal killing.

    After Jaws was released, fisherman went and killed numerous species of sharks.
    Global Warming and the availabilty of food not to mention a slow reproductive rate may be causing the decline of the shark as well as the danger of them being fished.
    tnborn
     
  17. stickinote07

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    uh huh.. exactly. and who is responsible for global warming??
    ,asia
     
  18. AcousticPeace

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    no one cares about sharks because... if we didnt kill them for meat, how would they benefit us. im also a vegetarian, but our society sucks, so i guess until at least 75% of the people on the earth are positive and actually care about the earth in which we live in. then we can make a change.
     
  19. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    I <3 sharks.

    They are the coolest fish in the world. I like to cheer them on when they are hunting seals.
     
  20. Lainey

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    i dont like sharks..
    i think they are the enemy
     

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