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Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by ravengirl2820, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. ravengirl2820

    ravengirl2820 Member

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    Hi um... well this is all really new to me. My boyfriend is going to try Salvia for the first time tonight with one of his best friends. They have done a lot of reasearch into it and they keep trying toreassure me that everything is going to be okay (I'm not going to be there because I have to work late.) My question here is if I really don't have anything to worry about. I know that they are doing it in a safe place ie: our apartment, and that they know the dose (very minimal) that they are going to take, but it still worries me a little because neither one of them has done this before. I guess I'm lookiong for a little more info for myself on what the effects are and if there is anything that can go really wrong for them. Thankyou in advance for all of your help from an over protective girlfriend/friend of some first timers.
     
  2. BeaverKoffi

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    If as u say they've done some research on it, you dont have to worry. basics of safe trip they understood i hope, if they're not 12-14 years old. For them its just gonan be some crazy expirience if they smoke it properly, jsut in case, u have to have Turbo lighter, and inhale salvia while being on fire ( turbo lighter or wahtever) and hold the smoke in ur lungs minimum for 30 sec... because its not as harmful as tobaco or weed,i found it very enjoyable and lucky =) so they will just sit down and expirience feeling they never expirienced before. btw you should try it to, just to know, its sometimes fun if u have free time with nice ppl around, Peace, have a happy night shift :)
     
  3. redgreenvines

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    nothing can go wrong in a lasting way.
    but
    for 3-4 minutes it is 20% possible that one or both of the experimenters will
    be delerious and may want to wander.
    level 6 (with amnesiac delrious behavior) is attained accidentally by trying to reach level 5 and overshooting.
    no toxic effect occurs to the body.
    the sitter's job is to prevent wandering out of doors if naked or down stairs while their coordination is very bad.
    the job of the salvianaut is to prepare a child safe area for him/herself, i.e. no pointy objects, no offensive noises, etc.
     
  4. MatrimCauthon

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    Salvia can have a few effects mentally on a person if they are not prepared, but it's more sub-conscious than anything else. In my thread I explain how my friend has had a few lasting issues with salvia. Sleep walking, lucid dreaming, and sometimes zoning in and out of reality. It's calming down now, because he was smoking the leaf every night but I told him to quit. I personally have very very vivid dreams since I met Salvia. I also use the leaf as an anti-depressant. I take a hit from my spoon before work and feel better for the rest of the day.

    You're not wrong for being worried about him, my girlfriend is the same way about it, and my sister. Just remember the basics : Calm, Comfort, Control, and Care. Make sure he is completely calm - I meditate. Make sure he is completely comfortable in the place he is smoking, mentally and physically - I have to have a blanket and a bottle of water otherwise I don't feel safe. Make sure if anything bad does happen, you can control the situation. Example: Parents aren't going to be walking in the room, phones won't be ringing, people won't be knocking at the door. Noises can turn a great mind expansion into a terrifying experience, even the smallest of noises like a cell phone vibrating against a wooden table. And of course care - I you spend an hour complaining to him before he breaks through, it may give him a bad trip or leave him unable to have one at all. Any stress leaves me void of trippy effects. Remind him that you are behind him as long as he is completely ready, and that you will be there to help him through it.

    Safety first. Salvia has changed my life in many ways, I continually enjoy the experiences I have - but I have always at least had a friend in the same building as myself.

    Good luck to him, and remind him not to be disappointed if nothing happens his first time. It takes patience. Let us know what happens.
     
  5. ravengirl2820

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    Thanks for the reassurance. It turns out that they did not do it last night, the babysitter they had backed out... And well they both didn't feel it would be a good idea for them to try Salvia for the first time without any one around to keep an eye on them. I have been considering trying it myself, but cirtin curcumstances will prevent me from it for at least another month and a half.

    BTW is there a major differance in the effects if one should use salvia in liquid form instead of smoke it?
     
  6. MatrimCauthon

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    From what I've read the liquid is bogus, but I haven't been able to find that much information about it. Recommend starting with small doses of 10 - 15x out of a small bong or bubbler.
     
  7. ravengirl2820

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    Maybe I will suggest smoking to them. They went for it last night (baby sitter came through for them this time) and even after taking more than twice the recomeded dose nothing happened for either of them. They were both pretty disappointed about it, they had been looking forward to trying this for a while. Oh well maybe the next time will go better for them.
     
  8. ravengirl2820

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    Yeah I tincture is what they used last night.
     
  9. BeaverKoffi

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    rave girl try what i suggested, smoking following specific routine. before drinking you shouldnt eat anything.
     
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