Why are Christians such homophobes?

I love who I love regardless of age, race, sexual preference, religious beliefs, etc. After all, that is what friendship is all about. Unconditional love. What I think about their salvation doesn't affect how I feel for them. I do pray for them, yes, but if even they choose not follow God, it doesn't mean that I will love them any less. I never said that I didn't sin. Everyone sins, it's human nature. The difference is that Christians try avoid it.

I believe the keyword in that phrase was, "often". I did not say that every single gay person on the face of the earth behaved in any certain way. But again, it was a psychological theory. Take it up with the Psychiatrist/Psychologist that theorized it.

 

Wow this is disappointing. Many more pages worth of text and no one really addressed the points/sites I brought up in my last post.

Well anyway, I think that those who are opposed to homosexuality need to realize something. The reason this issue is separate from all other things the bible condemns is because it calls something a sin that is inherent in someone's nature. The bible condemns many things: killing, stealing, adultery...but none are like homosexuality. The killer chooses to kill, the stealer chooses to steal, the adulterer chooses to cheat. However, the homosexual doesn't choose to be a homosexual. It is accepted to preach against the killers, stealers, and adulterers because they made a conscious decision, a harmful decision. However, to preach against someone's nature, something they have no control over, is terrible. To instill hate toward a certain person based on who they are is the true sin. I will never believe that the Christian God thought homosexuality was a sin because it goes against the Christian teaching that he is all loving. Even if you still believe thats what the bible says, consider this quote.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."

I would never believe in something that tells me to hate someone based on something they have no control over.

A few days ago I saw a program on Matthew Shepard's death. I shuddered when they showed a bunch of men, women and even children protesting at the trial of one of the men who killed Shepard. They had signs saying "Matthew's in Hell", or "No special laws for fags". I don't believe that anyone here has these feelings, but the thought that there are people in the world with so much hate inside themselves is scary. What I don't understand is how people not only think someone's sexual orientation means the are automatically sinning, but that their orientation also means they will automatically burn in hell. People don't necessarily have the same assumptions for one who has commit adultery.

Anyway, for those of you who still think its a sin, just remember that you are against normal everyday people who only have one difference from you: their sexual preference. By preaching against them, that is no different from preaching against someone with a different skin color, it is not only not important, but it really doesn't mean anything in terms of who the person is as a whole.

Namaste,

Diana

 

You forgot lust. Homosexuality is a perversion. I don't know how many times I have to say this, but you choose to do the things you do. You are not born that way. God does not make you homosexual, as that goes against His creation of man and woman. Then again it is pointless for me to say this, because even if God Himself parted the skies and said to everyone that it was wrong, people would still choose homosexuality.

Again I also have to say that I do not hate anyone. Just because yu see a few fake christians spreadign hate doesn't mean we are all like that. You have to be very small minded to think that everyone is the same. So, let's get this settled right now. I am not the fake christian yu see on tv. I am not the fake christian spitting on people. What I am is a human who admits he is a sinner, who lives his life as best he can according to The Word of God.

 

i think you're 100% wrong, bandit, on the homosexuality being a choice. i've never chosen to be attracted to my same sex, i just am. the fact that i'm also attracted to the male sex is great because i wanted kids and they're easier to come by that way. but for someone who looks at the opposite sex and can't help but feel revulsion, i'm in full sympathy.


what about the tendency for animals in nature to develop homosexual tendencies when the population gets out of control? i think god built in a social valve for that sort of thing, and homosexuality is it.

 

Umm Bandit, it seems like you didn't thoroughly read my post:

I was just bringing up the issue, because those people thought they were Christians and they believed that simply by being homosexual it means you are automatically going to Hell. I never generalized, and like I said before I don't believe anyone here has these beliefs, so I don't understand why you think I am small minded.

I didn't forget lust, I totally understand that it is a sin to have premartial sex and to commit adultery, and of course its one of the seven deadly sins. My point was that saying that nsame gender sex is a sin really condemns a certain people based on something they cannot control. In the same way, imagine if you are attracted to the opposite sex, it would be ridiculous for someone to condemn you and others like you by something that is in your nature. Obviously the issue of procreation gets in the way, but what I am trying to say is that its not right to condemn people based on something that is a part of their nature.

Many times I have heard people say "God doesn't make you a homosexual". I do not understand why people think they know this. Has God told you this? I mean unless you yourself are a homosexual how do you even know what it is like? I mean if you say that people "choose to do the things they do" how do you justify the natural inclination of heterosexuals toward others of the opposite sex? You don't choose to be attracted to the opposite sex, it is part of your nature, just as attraction to the same sex is part of a homosexuals nature. If you looked at the websites that I posted, it explains that same gender sex wasn't even mentioned in the bible, let alone homosexuality. Who is to say if God did or didn't intend it, unless he himself mentions it in the bible. The term "homosexuality" didn't even exist in Jesus' time.

Namaste,

Diana

 

I personally don’t feel revulsion for the opposite sex; it’s just that it does about as much for me sexually as kissing a wall would! Which is absolutely nothing. I have dated guys before (quite a few incidentally) when i was younger but i was never attracted to them and i certainly never slept with any of them because quite frankly i am just not attracted to men. Its not like i could even name off reasons why I’m not because I’m not repulsed by them and I’m comfortable enough with my sexuality to share beds with male friends but that’s all they are is friends. I haven't chosen to be gay and i don’t see why i shouldn't act on it being as this is the case. There's a whole lot of people who can't believe this but hey, i can sleep at night because i know what i am and i know who I’m not, regardless of the narrow minded opinions of people who haven’t got a clue and accuse me of not having a clue about my own life. That’s just a silly perception to take on things.

 

Well, that pretty much summed it up for me. You said what it does for you. Meaning yet again it is a perversion based on what you want. Look, we can go round and round all you want on this topic, however, in reading and studying The Bible, I see where homosexuality is wrong. I see where God created life and who He coupled man with. He didn't exactly give man a choice did He? So, from my perspective, you should be able to see why I believe homosexuality is a choice. God doesn't make you homosexual. Just like He doesn't make you do anything else. It's all your choice. So, in that same line of thought, I understand why you see nothing wrong with homosexuality, you do not have the relationship that I and other Christians have with Jesus Christ.

Now, I would like to remind you that at anytime you come across a supposed christian that is teaching hate, be it towards races, religions, or sexual preference, you haven't found a God fearing Christian. What yo uhave found is either a wayward and confused Christian, or all in all a fake Christian. Just remeber that next time whe nyou hear someone say "All Christians are homophobes".

 

The Bible speaks many times about, "men comitting indecent acts with other men." and "abandoning natural relations with women and being inflamed with lusts for one another."

God gave us the Bible as his word. That is how we know.

 

ok if you want proof that the Bible is open to interrpretation, check out this link. It shows the arguments from both sides of the coin both quoting from passages in the Bible and is one of the best, most fair articles I've seen on this.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm

Make sure you scroll all the way down to the area entitled Topics covered in this section and read every link there to get the full argument. Its facinating reading.

 

Every time someone says this I sigh because I think twice already I have posted two sites which show that this isn't the case. No one has yet address these sites in a post; cptbri now also has posted a website, so I strongly suggest that you all check them out.

Namaste,

Diana