Protest against the Japanese

They take we Chinese people's mercy for granted and have been escalating the purification of their sinister invasion to our country 59 years ago, which caused more than 35 million death of Chinese.

 

The Japanese imperial expansion into China during world war 2 is barely mentioned in the west despite it's horrific amount of causlties. I've heard the number closer to 20 million.

This is also close to the number killed in the cultural revolution, and the Taiping civil war. Lets be honest, Chinas had a rough century and a half. The people their have been remarkably resiliant.

Forgivness is a virtue though. I know it may be hard since China is still dealing with some of the effects of the Sino-Japanese war, China is recovering and part of that is not holding a grudge.

 

what are you protesting?

 

Theres a movment in China to repatriate a few japanese communities left over from the second world war.

Theres still some tensions considering the japanese killed about 20 million chinese during world war 2.

 

Ok i'm still pretty confused maybe you should lay it out super clear.

sorry to be a hassle

 

Eh, I was just being lazy.

in 1937 the imperial Japanese invaded China. It was a really brutal invasion and by the end of it in 1945 the Japanese had killed about 3 million Chinese soldiers and about 18 Million Chinese civilians. In terms of casulties the Chinese suffered the greatest during World War 2.

Consequently, there are a lot of really strong negative public opinions in China towards Japan to this day.

Another side effect of this Invasion was several Japanese communities being set up within China.

These Japanese communities within China have been a source of hostility between China and Japan, and many Chinese want the Japanese in these communities to be given Japanese citizenship and for them to immigrate bcak to Japan.

 

so why protest?

 

Because of the atrocities Japan committed, and still has gotten away with.

But I honestly think that it is pointless the protest Japan. Just because they have such a strong hold on our economy, our protests will fall on deaf ears. Same situation for protesting China in the hopes of releasing Tibet. T'ain't gonna make a difference.

 

Let me put it in another way. In 1945, despite of the great casualty my country had suffered, Chairman Mao released Japan from great debt which should be payed for the invasion. That's an essential prerequisition for their booming economy right after World War 2. Don't you think that's great forgiveness? But let's see what the Japanese have been done to us these years. They have been continuously beautifying and glorifying their bloody invasion to our country, and claiming that they are the victim but not China. They modified their middle school history text book in to stories in which Nanjing Massacre(300 thousand civilians were killed when the Japanese army occupied Nanjing) was said to be an incident. Their Prime Minister have continuously visited the war shrine and showed respect on war criminals. In a word, they refused to admit their invasion to China in World War 2. I'm not sure whether American people have heard of these things, but that's the very point we Chinese can not forgive, and what I'm protesting.

 

Well, I'v never heard about the number of people killed in cultural revolution and Taiping uprising, because in China it's barely mentioned. You have a point there, but the true situation in China is that the Japanese invasion has been forgiven, however, their beautification of it and unwillingness to admit it is never forgiven. Do you think this is justified?

 

I'm sorry but where did you learn the things of Japanese communities in China? I'm sure this is not the source of hostility between China and Japan because I'v never heard of these communities and so have most other Chinese.

 

That's quite true. Chinese people's protest against Japan has always fell on deaf ears just because the economic bond between China and Japan. But why do you think it's good for Tibet to be released from China? Their economy won't suffice without China. Tibet is given enormous autonomy and most people there think it's good to be with China.

 

More power to your protest but ithinik this is one of these things in america that'll be hard to protest, i don't know about other countries

 

I was merely using the China/Tibet conflict as an example.

 

Well don't take this the wrong way, because I love China. I'm trying to learn Mandorin and want to spend some time in China.

But the Japanese government is unwilling to admit anything that would diminish the glory of Japan, as the Chinese government is unwilling to diminish the glory of China. You yourself admitted not hearing the death tolls of the cultural revolution. It was a period of time when many many farmers and small communities starved.

That certainly doesn't justify what Japan did.

 

Well it is part of the source of the hostility.

http://english.people.com.cn/200606/25/eng20060625_277172.html

There are of course many other sources, as you mentioned, such as Japan's PM visiting war criminals burial grounds.

 

I very happy that you'r interested in my country. If one day you visit I will give you a warm welcome
I'm amazed that an American should know so much about China. But a notice I give you is that part of your information about China form the west source is not true or distorted , as I learn distorted information from the Chinese source. For example, you said cultural revolution caused many many farmers and small communities starved, but that's not true. I learnt cultural revolution from my parents who had experienced it. Although cultural revolution is a disaster to China's development, nobody's starved.

 

I was taught (and I just took the class) that the Great Leap Forward caused mass starvation, killing millions of people. The Cultural Revolution was also a step in the wrong direction. My teacher lived through both situations and he wasn't quiet about how bad it was for him.

 

I consider the great leap forward to be a smaller part of the overall campaign that was the cultural revolution, even though it happaned a little earlier.

There are some in China who attribute the starvations in the great leap forward to the after effects of the japanese invasion, which might not be completly inaccurate, but it is clear the government switched a lot of the infrastructure to industry from agriculture and that caused many millions of starvations.

 

Either way, it was a tragedy.
The japanese may have cleared the way economically speaking for mass starvation - but it was the Communist party that did the country in.