AIDS. I know this is a touchy subject but...

Suppose evolutionary theorists are correct, that everything evolves the way it does for a humanly understandable reason (well, if it didn't, the theory wouldn't make much sense). I'm not necessarily talking Darwinism here, more like the reason nocturnal animals can see in the dark, etc. Also consider that nature (if not tampered with) has a way of balancing itself out.

Could AID's be a defence mechanism of the planet, nature or whatever you want to call it, against the ever greater threat of a population boom which threatens all other living things? What I'm basically asking is do you think there is a reason for AIDs, considering we as a species attach meaning and reason to most things? Or do you think it is just a coincidence that it has evolved in the manner it has?

 

ya dood u got it good
because "there isn't higher life form above us" "humans" maybe its selection made by time and earth

 

I don't think anything is infallable - I mean some bright spark even discovered how to destroy pretty much anything with the flick of a switch,so as if the world didn't have enough natural perils to overcome - fire,meteroites,volcanic erruptions,earthquakes - we had to try and invent something that was just that little bit more destructive,go that little bit further.

Its hard to percieve diseases as being living organisms that attack the immune system,but even all those antibodies already living in our stomachs and elswere that do the fighting for us against less fatal illnesses such as influenza etc,must have enemies - everything seems to revolve through states of balance and conflict.As we evolve - our actions globally speaking are likely to cause certain changes in us - strengths and weaknesses.We are already communicating in different ways now compared to our ancestors and its hard to predict what the outcome of this will be.

The idea of the human race surviving forever seems a little unrealistic in some ways,because nature doesn't appear to work that way.I'd like to know in what year the first human thought to itself 'why are we here?' because it seems to be something we are globally growing more and more intensely mystified by.I sometimes wonder what will have become of us in a million years time - but so much has developed in the last century that it is just impossible to predict - but in the scheme of things,I would be amazed if we managed to survive

 

Aids is the result of kids having sex at age 10 with multiple partners and this is the human bodies reaction to that kind of life.

 

Of course we will manage to survive ! as u noticed last 100 years were Omg likea boom so fast and so productive... imagine next 100 ? earth will be Historically our Mother plant , we will go further into space, search for new planets, new materials , anythign , we will immigrate, produce more inventions that will support and make oru lives better. Nothing Regresses, everythgin progresses, Terrorism- Dying for Allah is just little piece of history, little piece of time, in future there will be no religion, you will remmebr my words. We have very interesting future,i wish i'd be born right now, but from another side, its always intersing form the point u start ur life. So Enjoy, and never stop learning.

 

Really? I don't mean to be a harvester of doom - its just the universe (quite phenomenally) seems to be an organic ever-changing place that grows and receeds - almost as if most things are given an opportunity to dominate but not forever

but I agree with keep learning

 

Nature on one hand is beautiful and peaceful. On the other hand it's lethal and ruthless as we see in tsunamis and things like that... This gives two sides to the life that we know and live: one side of it is very peaceful, very positive, very spiritual. And the other side is very apocalyptic, dark, even self destructive... Embrace the extremes and if AIDs is a natural occurance and was supposed to be then we are in no position to argue with that. It is just one of many features on Earth that is out of the power of human control.

 

I believe a virus has about as much evolutionary conscience and Universal significance as a birth defect, a bacteria or a tetratogen. Some things are preventable or avoidable. Some things happen by total accident. And sometimes sh*t just happens.

I don't like the notion of diseases that destroy defense mechanisms as being some type of planteary shield. It would certainly give rise to some hostile sentiment about Mother Earth.

I believe that AIDS is nothing more than the growth and development of the human immunideficiency virus living inside a human host. Short of that, I place no greater significance or meaning to its existance.

 

My theory on HIV that there are mutations in the viurs that are impacted by the ever increasing environmental toxins. So, yeah, maybe it could be viewed as a result of what we are doing to the earth and atmosphere.

 

I most certainly think these epidemic diseases and horrible natural disasters are like Nature's immune system taking action. However, it bothers me that these problems are not affecting those that are ruining the planet...

Earth needs to come up with something to kill off the wealthy North American-European-etc. people who are really screwing things up

 

I know exactly what you are trying to say, and it sparked a new idea in my mind. Viruses like AIDS, ebola and stuff, perhaps besides just living (they are alive) they are also used as cleansing mechanisms to cleanse certain races (it happens to other primates often too like monkeys) and bring the population, or get back for being stupid or something...

 

AIDS By itself isn't a horrible plague until you have global travel and interconnectedness i think AIDS isn't to kill off hummanity but to keep it's population. ok i think thats what everyone else said so w/e

 

correct in my eyes. I believe all life threatening illnesses are a form of population control. Nature has to have some way of controling populations before they get out of hand in size.

 

sounds like yin yan ... the whole theory sounds a bit like it and very possible if you ask me

 

I still believe AIDS was developed in a lab and unleashed because those that could benefit felt they were protected from it. You unloose one of these type of bacteria or virus and who can actually be protected?

http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Urgent_Action/AIDS_Contract.html

Want to think "god" did this... well if you think of the monied elite as "god", then yes. Hey I don't play with mother nature, she has a wicked sense of humor and she will meet out justice how she may. Money doesn't mean anything to her.

 

Or could Aids be a human created disease to try and cut down the population.

 

It certainly did that, but it cut down an isolated community of the world until it mutated and found it's way into the heterosexual part of the world. Now they have found a way to combat the fatal aspects of the disease. Funny how they find a control that wasn't important until then.

We still aren't concerned with this epidemic like the Bush administration would like us to be with the vague, phantom risk of avian flu. But then only innocent African citizens are being affected in huge amounts. They are considered expendable. Why aren't they considered worthy of consideration. Why is Avian flu now the biggest concern of the American nation? Because Rumsfield and his buddies own stock in the company that is selling a vaccine that may or may not be efficient. Only 39 people have died of Avian flu in 2 years, how many have died of aids. Which is more important?

 

Nature had nothing to do with this. Only those that benefit monetarily. That's why the rich and powerful up until mutation happened were not affected.

 

Now they are and I hope they lose family members and feel the pain that the little man has had to feel. No I don't really wish this for anyone, but I do want those in power to know what the little person feels when they lose a family member and I want them to measure that as though it counts. It counts way more than money.

 

I don't have any sources because I was making it all up. You obviously didn't pick that up though.