Absinthe

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  1. ziggyfly

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    Fuck i love absinthe... sept the stuff in north america sucks.. but yeah I love it..Sweet:).. I havn't gona all out to as to drink absinthe and get baked at the same time.
     
  2. RELAYER

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    thurgjon in germany is limited in absinthe, but not in spain, and the website he ordered from will sell you absinth from all over, especially spain. walk of life, that website is very reliable, but most of the stuff they sell on ther is BULLSHIT! i would only trust some of the spanish absinthes, go for DEVA 50 for start. then if you can afford it go for some Suisse La Bleue Clandestine. they are gaurenteed to be REAL absitnhe. most of the shit they sell is just really strong liqour without wormwood, but those two are definitley what you want. let me know if you ordered anything yet, and i will tell you if you should cancel it if possible.
     
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    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    And by the way, the homemade absinthe with vodka and wormwood does not work and it is not real absinthe. sorry.
     
  4. skycanvas

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    Choice of Impressionists Everywhere!

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    From what I read, the real stuff is prohibited for import into the US because of the Wormwood, the controversial ingredient. So they use a Wormwood substitute & probably pour a lot of other bullshit into the mix that they do permit here that is actually worse for you.

    For example, we used to dig Sassafras root up in the northeast & brew it into a tea. I don't know if that is actually the risk they suddenly say it is or not. I used to drink it by the pitcher. My grandmother made Rootbeer with it & lived to 96 before the doctors killed her trying to fix an old lady by cutting on her (they get through that & die from the hospital's resident germs.) It's known in my family that her & her sister (lived to 92) also dug Lydia Pinkham (@45 proof) & Grandma liked Valium although my mom denies it--all the young's know it's true. Go Granny, Go!

    Substitute Green Dragon Instead!
     
  5. skycanvas

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    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/absinthe/absinthe_law.shtml

    Absinthe
    Legal Status
    by Erowid

    U.S. FEDERAL LAW #
    Caution : * All legal information should be verified through other sources. [see below]
    U.S. FEDERAL LEGAL SUMMARY

    Absinthe

    CONTROLLED
    Yes

    STATUS
    FDA Regulated

    SCHEDULE
    Un-Scheduled

    In the U.S., traditional Absinthe is illegal to sell for human consumption because it contains the chemical thujone which is banned by the FDA for use in foods but allowed in some herbs known to contain thujone (Title 21, Chapter 1, Part 172.510). Some types of absinthe are sold in the U.S. which contain no thujone and other absinthes are imported into the U.S. despite FDA regulations.
    A second legal issue with absinthe is that it is illegal in the United States to distill alcohol (even for personal consumption) without paying special taxes, filing paperwork & requesting a license from the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms. We haven't researched exactly what is involved in this process, but it seems quite complex and impractical. Some absinthe recipes call for distilling the product and some do not. So, technically a distilled absinthe could be illegal if made without a license. It is also illegal to sell any alcohol for human consumption without a license.
    It is likely legal in the US to produce absinthe for one's personal use using commercially available distilled liquor and infusing one's own herbs into the alcohol, although any thujone-containing drinks are illegal to sell or distribute.
    For more details about the legality of Absinthe, see Is it illegal to import Absinthe into the United States?
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    The following is from the Absinthe FAQ:
    In the United States of America, absinthe was originally banned by Food Inspection Decision 147 in 1912. Now, thujone is banned as a food additive according to Section 801A of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act of August, 1972. Wormwood was included on a list of unsafe herbs which the FDA released in 1975.
    The European Community Codex Committee on Food Additives has restricted the levels of thujone to 0.5 ppm (mg/kg) in food and beverages, 10 ppm (mg/kg) in alcoholic beverages containing more than 25% alcohol, 5 ppm (mg/kg) in weaker alcoholic beverages, and 35 ppm in bitters. Absinthe was banned in Belgium in 1905, in Switzerland in 1907, in Italy in 1913, and in France in 1915.
    Absinthe (made with wormwood) is still available in Spain (contrary to Pendell (1995)) and reportedly in Denmark, Andorra, and Portugal as well. It has also recently become popular in the Czech Republic under the brand name "Hill's Absinth."
     
  6. skycanvas

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    Rumor has it when Vincent van Gogh sliced off his earlobe and gave it to a prostitute as a gift, he was drunk on absinthe.

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    Vincent van Gogh sits pensively before a barely-visible glass of absinthe in this 1887 portrait by Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec.


    For more than a century, stories of madness and hallucinations have swirled around this potent green liquor, nicknamed "la fée verte" ("the green fairy"). Once the rage among Parisian artists, it has been banned since the early 1900s in most of Western Europe and the United States. Now, however, absinthe is making a comeback.
    In 19th century Paris, absinthe was a popular intoxicant. The early evening was known as the "green hour," when people would down a glass or two as an aperitif. With a potent alcohol content, Absinthe was diluted in an elaborate ritual that involved setting a sugar cube on a slotted spoon, and pouring cold water through the spoon into the liquor. A flashier variation involved soaking the sugar in absinthe, lighting the sugar on fire to carmelize it, and stiring it into the drink.
    While the ritual itself was a draw for some, it was absinthe's hallucinogenic nature that got many hooked. Absinthe is an herbal beverage. Among the ingredients is wormwood, an herb that contains a chemical called thujone. Thujone, taken in large doses, causes hallucinations.
    Absinthe is still legal in Great Britain, Spain, Portugal, and the Czech Republic, though the absinthe sold today contains far less wormwood than that sold in 19th century Paris. Afficionados say the anise flavor is refreshing when properly diluted. Many people, however, find the drink unpleasantly bitter.
    The recent release of the film, "Moulin Rouge," about the legendary Paris nightclub of the same name, has stirred up curiosity about Absinthe, and helped spur sales of a new "refined" and legal variation called Absente. Absente is made with Southern Wormwood, a type of wormwood with a much lower thujone content. With a slightly bitter anise flavor and a still potent 55 percent alcohol level, Absente still has the characteristic green color.
    Absente is not considered to pose the same health risks as absinthe because of its very low thujone content. Doctors, however, are concerned that the new Absente is being abused. Curiosity seekers have tried spiking it with extract from more potent wormwood. One man ended up in the hospital with seizures and heart and kidney failure after drinking wormwood extract he purchased on the Internet. Wormwood extract is sold for aromatherapy; however, consuming it can be life-threatening.
    If you visit a country in Europe where the real absinthe is legal and you are curious to try it, do so with caution, and don't expect to see any green fairies. The old Parisian liquor had a thujone ratio of roughly 260 parts per million. Most absinthe today ranges from roughly 1.5 to 30 parts per million — generally not enough to act as a hallucinogen. It still packs a wallop with an alcohol content of 60 percent or more. If you try to drink enough to experience the hallucinogenic affects, you are likely to end up in the hospital with alcohol poisoning before you notice the effects of the wormwood.
     
  7. eat_some_LSD

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    I just received my 2 bottles of 136 proof, 10 ppm thujone-containing REAL Absinthe from Paris today...no problems here. ;)

    Also, from my limited research, thujone isn't actually psychedelic; it blocks alcohol from entering the GABA channel in your brain, and thus negates side-effects such as drowsiness and sloppiness...this will "fool" the user into believing they aren't very drunk, and can wind up giving them alcohol poisoning, at which point they may (or may not) experience hallucinations and/or madness...
     
  8. skycanvas

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  9. eat_some_LSD

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    When in doubt...Ask Erowid:

    Also, from the Absinthe FAQ:
     
  10. skycanvas

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    Wow, interesting...so that's how it works. There are certain pharmaceuticals that have that effect too. I wonder if that's why Princess Diana's chauffeur was drinking but showed no effects, as he was on the antidepressant, Prozac, if I recall & possibly other things. Yes, there are meds that block the action of drink--but you are not spared the hangover.

    :eek:
     
  11. RELAYER

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    eat some lsd what kind did you get and how much was it?
     
  12. eat_some_LSD

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    I got two 70 CL bottles of La F'ee Parisian absinthe, which I think was around $250 including two spoons. It's 140 proof, so even if it isn't hallucinogenic I'm guaranteed to have good time. ;)
     
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    ok then you got some real stuff then. It's pretty good. It's not hallucinogenic but be careful how much you drink because when the thujone wears out the alcohol kicks in and i mean REALLY kicks in.
     
  14. eat_some_LSD

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    It's definitely good...it's basically the same buzz as alcohol, but you don't get drowsy or sloppy until after X hours; say I drink about 10 shots...I'll act normal (but be talking shit and have tendency towards violence), but about 3 or 4 hours later I'll be stumblin' stupid kinda drunk.

    I could definitely see the potential this could have for causing hallucinations and madness with chronic use, however, this doesn't seem to be a problem as I'm the only person out of 4 or 5 people who's even finished a glass...I drank a half a fifth Friday and I'm finishing the other half tonight.
     
  15. Eyes_of_Sand

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    I have to note this to anyone reading. Absinthe, as known to us today is actually stronger (assuming you go about the popular steeping method). Absinthe was drank by most all of France in local bars and dining areas. The great popularity of the drink almost battled the wine sale, hence the ban, and not because of its "hallucinagenic properties". It is safe to say the drink in its golden was most tastier than one would expect today. Yes it can be visual but the method in which it is processed was traditionally distilled. Nevertheless i have tried the steeped version and came across no visuals but did aquire a rather narcotic buzz. And the life expectacy was due to poor living conditions and absinthe made it somewhat better. Have fun if you do decide to try it and remember the results of the steeped version are always unexpected, but why live life in a bubble?
     
  16. FireflyInTheDark

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    I have been DYING to try Absinthe for a long time...
    Are they all so alcohol concentrated?
     
  17. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    LOL I guess so...
     
  18. Lenny!

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    I have made absinthe and bought it, it is a pain in the ass to buy it without spending a ton of dough, just search around. I made something similar to it, I was at the local brewing shop and noticed a small bag of wormwood for seal(two bucks) some star anise. I mixed the whole bag of wormwood and 5 or 6 star anise in a bottle of vodka,(filtered through a Vodkastick) let it sit for a week, and strained it through a coffee filter. Chill it to drink, and mix in some strong sugar water(simple syrup) and have a go. I thought that the effects were just as strong as the Czech absinth that I have bought online.
     
  19. sweetfocker

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    how much shud the proof be to let it be safe for you...and what all should i look out for ...ill be buying from dubai duty free...will i get there???
     
  20. sandpedlar

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    "Absinthe, as known to us today is actually stronger "
    This is pure and utter crap. Thujone is quite limited in the absinthes available today. The alcohol content, once again, is the thing that really makes the drink different from others. If you're looking for high thujone content, which I don't recommend, common sage has exponentially more thujone than artemesia absinthium(wormwood).
    Don't soak the wormwood, or other herbs, in vodka or 151, or everclear, and expect to get absinthe. Absinthe is a distilled product.
    Don't drink it by the shot, and if you are paying more than $150/bottle you are getting bent over. Please visit here, http://www.feeverte.net/ and read up. Any questions, please PM me.
     

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