I talk to the recruiters. They get frustrated and tell me I must be getting all my information from Micheal Moore. and I say, "Try NBC" haha.. I dont like being rude to people who call. I try to make them laugh instead.
My "lack of understanding" occurred while I was against this war. After I opened my eyes up to the unbiased facts, I realised that this war is mostly a good thing. You should really stop conforming to mindless stereotypes, such as your whole "anti-war hippie" thing. Its really unbecoming of a person. That sucks... but even if you're found guilty, you can still enlist (I had a possession of pot conviction two years ago). You just can't sign up for a medical job and you're not eligible for a high-level security clearance until your first stint in the Army is over (you have to re-inlist). [/quote]You can sign up for two. (But then there'll be two more as a reservist after that, so whatever)
Let's think about this: There are 132,000 US troops in Iraq, and approximately 2 die everyday (it's actually more like 2.28, but we'll keep it simple). So, there's a .0015% chance that a given soldier will die on a given day in Iraq. In the US, there are about 300,000,000 people and about 115 car crash-related deaths everyday (I checked on Wikipedia). So, there's a .000038% chance of a given person dying in a car crash on a given day in the US. Chuck, your recruiter gave you information based on bad logic. It may be true that more people in the US are killed each day in car accidents than troops are killed in Iraq, but that doesn't mean that I have a better chance of dying a car accident than you have dying in Iraq. Actually, a soldier fighting in Iraq is over 39 times more likely to die in battle than I am in a car crash. I'd take my chances with the .000038% way before the .0015% chance. It should also be taken into account that, no, not everyone drives/rides in a car in the US. However, if you're going to do that, then you need to take into account that the US death toll in Iraq only includes those soldiers who died IN Iraq. If a soldier is wounded in battle and flow out of Iraq to a hospital where he dies from his injuries, he did not die "in" Iraq, and therefore is not counted.
I thought of that after I originally posted the said bad logic... Your last paragraph is mighty intriguing. This is no laughing matter.... but I'm not gonna worry about it.
wow.. derek. i'm impressed. you understand statistics. oh, and even if you dont drive or ride in a car, you can die from a car-crash related accident. you could walk outside, and someone hits you. or better yet, they drive through your windows and hit you while you're watching Oprah.
He didn't mention that 132,000 is a standing number though. The number of troops who have been to Iraq is more then double that. So the odds are even better in that respect. Still not overwhelmingly safe.
Numbers don't lie. They can be easily misrepresented though. I'm not saying Derek was trying to misrepresent them.
And there are deaths that occurred Afghanistan included with those numbers, but mostly there're only SF and Marines there now.
Apparently, over a million troops have been in Iraq and Afghanistan. http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2005/050412-gone-to-war.htm So the number would be much smaller.